- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Natalia Tena. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The musical group which noted actress Natalia Tena is a member of. The page is alternating between a redirect to Tena's article and various versions of atrociously written articles (this last one isn't too bad, though). We need to discuss, however, whether the band is notable enough (per WP:BAND) to make improving the article worth the while. The present version makes no clear claim of notability, and a Google News Archives search comes up empty for me (although I suspect that this is some error on my end). Sandstein 12:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that including any and every band into Wikipedia smacks of insanity - I thought that merely redirecting to Natalia Tena's page didn't seem right though. I am a Wikipedia newbie however, and no doubt should read any number of style and content guides, without question. Molotov Jukebox have some news presence, particularly related to live music festivals and googling 'molotov jukebox st pancras' shows one particular strand of their performances. I am interested in how this discussion progresses. • Cairoken
- Hi, your article is a good first attempt for a new editor, but in order to develop it further we need material in reliable sources (see WP:RS) that covers the band in some depth (see WP:GNG). Notably, self-published material like the band's website or blogs are not appropriate sources; we need third-party coverage (see WP:SPS). If you find sources that could be appropriate, typically articles published in reputed news media or specialised publications with editorial oversight, please mention them here. If not, we can still cover the band in the context of Tena's article, to the extent the sources allow. Sandstein 19:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. There are a few non-English Google News results ([1], [2]), though I'm not familiar with the publications/sites. The band are playing quite a few festivals this summer (e.g. this (which also suggests civerage in the Evening Standard) and this (headlining)) so I suspect more coverage is out there. If it is decided that a standalone article isn't justified, then a section in the Natalia Tena article would perhaps be more appropriate than a simple redirect. --Michig (talk) 20:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Michig for those references! I've added some citations to the proposed entry and I think it stands up to more rigorous scrutiny now. This has been very educational! Fingers crossed this is in the right direction. Cairoken (talk) 22:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheSpecialUser TSU 01:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.