- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. The discussion about merging can continue on the article's talk page (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Motor capacitor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Already covered at AC motor#Capacitor start motor and AC motor#Permanent split-capacitor motor. Some material here might better be added to AC motor. John Nagle (talk) 04:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The article on the motors themselves is already pretty long, so such level of detail about the capacitors may be best treated as a separate article, while mentioning it in the main article in summary style. --Itub (talk) 12:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep No-one advocates deletion here as the content is obviously useful, but it's also sufficiently distinct as to deserve independent coverage outside the motor article itself. This is just the sort of thing that {{More}} exists for. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This article is an expansion of a two-line section of a long article on electric motors. It's a subarticle, and is adequately sourced to establish notability. Squidfryerchef (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep (by author). As explained in the article talk-page, it defines/explains 7 types of capacitors, directly, by handling redirection titles, rather than bury those 7 terms within a larger article about capacitors or motors. The related real-world webpages are HUGE: with Google reporting 314,000 hits for the set of titles: "run capacitor" OR "start capacitor" OR "dual capacitor" OR "starting capacitor" OR "motor capacitor" (as major redirection titles). Only after weeks of research, did I discover the term "motor capacitor" should be the main title (Google hits=95,200). I felt terrible that Wikipedia had no mention of those terms, which apply to any person with an outdoor A/C, forced-air furnace, hot tub, ceiling fan, etc. It's just another of those massive voids which Wikipedia has filled now. Matching "314,000" related webpages, I believe the content of the article could be expanded for even more significant details (currently lacks "ceiling-fan"+capacitor, with hits=78,800). All those details extend far beyond other articles, further justifying the separate article. -Wikid77 (talk) 05:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The odd thing is, I've handled hundreds of the things over the years (factory manufacturing equipment) and never yet one related to HVAC. Europe's soggy Summers, I guess. "Motor capacitor"s is just about the right scope to pitch this at, but we should be careful not to be too narrow in looking at their applications. Thanks for a valuable article BTW Andy Dingley (talk) 09:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Right. Part of the problem here is that the original article had something of a promotional flavor to it. That's why I sent this to AfD. AC motor is much clearer on the role of starting and running capacitors in how motors work. Agreed that there's too much emphasis on HVAC. It's an issue in HVAC gear because motors in HVAC systems tend to be just barely big enough to handle their running load, and they're either powering fans (big inertial load at start) or compressors (big pumping load at start) so they struggle to get started. Manufacturing plant motors tend to be oversized a bit. I guess we're stuck with the article, but it will need work. --John Nagle (talk) 16:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Shouldn't power factor correction be the main thrust of the article? I was under the impression that pretty much all permanently-installed electric motors of a reasonable size had a capacitor, regardless of whether they had a high start-up load or not. However it is probably still useful to concentrate on the kinds of capactitors an electrician would select for HVAC or industrial use, with less emphasis on say the little capacitors that go on the motors of R/C cars. Squidfryerchef (talk) 01:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Right. Part of the problem here is that the original article had something of a promotional flavor to it. That's why I sent this to AfD. AC motor is much clearer on the role of starting and running capacitors in how motors work. Agreed that there's too much emphasis on HVAC. It's an issue in HVAC gear because motors in HVAC systems tend to be just barely big enough to handle their running load, and they're either powering fans (big inertial load at start) or compressors (big pumping load at start) so they struggle to get started. Manufacturing plant motors tend to be oversized a bit. I guess we're stuck with the article, but it will need work. --John Nagle (talk) 16:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Make requests at "Talk:Motor_capacitor#AfD debate requests wider scope". I have noted this discussion at "Motor capacitor" talk-page; post requests there, because details here become "hidden" once this AfD is resolved. Thx. -Wikid77 (talk) 04:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into AC Motor as proposed. There isn't so much more here that it should be a separate article. Mangoe (talk) 16:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.