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The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't appear to be notable by the standards of WP:MUSIC. A cursory search for coverage in reliable secondary sources turned up nothing (just blogs, last.fm listings, and lyrics sites). Not surprising, as according to the article the band only ever played 2 shows and only had 1 release, which they put out themselves. IllaZilla (talk) 20:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 23:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - If all it's going to say is "an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles", then Mike Kirsch (numerous bands) and Aaron Arroyo (also in Fuel) take care of that. And the album was recorded by Billy Anderson. This only comes up because someone that doesn't know what they're talking about seems to still have a grudge. Smk42 (talk) 02:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Tangential associations with notable persons do not in and of themselves equal notability. Note that the criteria state that a band "may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria" (emphasis mine), it does not say that meeting just 1 of criteria automatically makes a band notable. There is no automatic notability; the threshold (per WP:N) is always that the topic have been the subject of significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, otherwise there is nothing verifiable to say about it. That does not appear to be the case for this band, as I searched for sources and came up empty. Every garage/bar band that a notable musician started out in does not automatically warrant an encyclopedia article. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Smk42, please remember to assume good faith. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 07:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Tangential associations with notable persons do not in and of themselves equal notability. Note that the criteria state that a band "may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria" (emphasis mine), it does not say that meeting just 1 of criteria automatically makes a band notable. There is no automatic notability; the threshold (per WP:N) is always that the topic have been the subject of significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, otherwise there is nothing verifiable to say about it. That does not appear to be the case for this band, as I searched for sources and came up empty. Every garage/bar band that a notable musician started out in does not automatically warrant an encyclopedia article. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 14:48, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MacMedtalkstalk 02:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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