Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nintendo GameCube Preview Disc
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. While the deletion arguments are not very strong, neither are the keep arguments. This article is a good candidate for improvement with more/better sourcing to prevent a future relisting. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 22:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Nintendo GameCube Preview Disc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
A demo disc that was bundled with the GameCube and sold separately for $10.00. Contains four game demos and some videos. It is certainly not an exceptionally notable demo disc, and there is no other demo disc that could even remotely be considered notable enough for their own article, so why is this any different? Because it was advertised? Strong delete. A Link to the Past (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- speedy delete completely unnecessary, not notable. Djgranados 20:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- speedy delete as per Djgranados's commentJames SugronoContributions 22:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Under what criteria can it be speedy deleted? You can vote to delete, but it does not meet any of the criteria at WP:CSD TJ Spyke 23:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is far more notable than the average demo disc. For one thing, it was sold at retail. In fact, it actually managed to get in the Top 20 sales chart for a couple of months. TJ Spyke 23:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- So it was basically notable solely because a company wanted it to be notable? Nintendo advertised it and sold it at retail to increase sales for the GameCube and the games contained on the disc. Just because they put more effort into its success does not mean that it is notable. How do we compare it to other demo discs? Are these demo discs ever made available for sale? No. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If a company wanted it to be notable, and they succeeded in that goal by promoting it heavily, then yes, it is notable. Melsaran (talk) 14:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- So it was basically notable solely because a company wanted it to be notable? Nintendo advertised it and sold it at retail to increase sales for the GameCube and the games contained on the disc. Just because they put more effort into its success does not mean that it is notable. How do we compare it to other demo discs? Are these demo discs ever made available for sale? No. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per TJ Spyke. Like it or not, but this preview disc seems to be notable; it has been sold in stores, covered by game publications, and the article gives useful historical information. In other words, no compelling reason to delete this article. Melsaran (talk) 14:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It was covered by publications solely because Nintendo advertised it heavily. Also, list one single reason why an article that is nothing more than a lead and three lists needs to exist? Also, why do we need an entirely unsourced article? It lacks sources to its success, it lacks sources to its reception, and it doesn't even acknowledge that it was successful or had any reception whatsoever. This article is comprised of almost nothing but describing what it is, not why it's important, and the fact that no one's updated the September 2007 notation to October 2007 shows that no one's even very interested in the improvement of the article, that there's no one person who's compelled to maintain the quality of the article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "It was covered by publications solely because Nintendo advertised it heavily." It doesn't matter why the disc was covered by publications. What matters is that it was covered by several publications and that it is notable, probably because Nintendo wanted it to be notable. That the article currently has a WP:PROBLEM doesn't mean that it can't be improved. Yes, the article cites few sources, but so what? As pointed out in this debate, it surely can be sourced. Melsaran (talk) 14:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you saying that you're going to be able to expand this from a 0% unsourced two paragraph/three list article into a fleshed-out, fully-sourced article? - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "It was covered by publications solely because Nintendo advertised it heavily." It doesn't matter why the disc was covered by publications. What matters is that it was covered by several publications and that it is notable, probably because Nintendo wanted it to be notable. That the article currently has a WP:PROBLEM doesn't mean that it can't be improved. Yes, the article cites few sources, but so what? As pointed out in this debate, it surely can be sourced. Melsaran (talk) 14:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It was covered by publications solely because Nintendo advertised it heavily. Also, list one single reason why an article that is nothing more than a lead and three lists needs to exist? Also, why do we need an entirely unsourced article? It lacks sources to its success, it lacks sources to its reception, and it doesn't even acknowledge that it was successful or had any reception whatsoever. This article is comprised of almost nothing but describing what it is, not why it's important, and the fact that no one's updated the September 2007 notation to October 2007 shows that no one's even very interested in the improvement of the article, that there's no one person who's compelled to maintain the quality of the article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per TJ Spyke! If it was sold at retail and was in the top 20 sales chart [citation needed] then this case is closed. Burntsauce 17:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete per Djgranados' comment. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Please review the debate before commenting. Djgranados said "completely unnecessary, not notable". The first isn't an argument, and the second has been questioned (as pointed out above, the disc probably is notable). Why exactly do you think deletion (speedy deletion, even) is warranted here? Melsaran (talk) 18:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.