Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nintendocore (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. TerriersFan 03:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is about a neologism. It fails WP:NEO, WP:NOR, and WP:V. Also the majority of Google hits have nothing to do with a music genre. This article has been deleted twice before and for the same reasons listed here. --Leon Sword 23:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - No, it was deleted once, and re-created, then kept; there are definitely some sources for this:Harvard Crimson, LA Times. --Haemo 00:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: No, it was deleted twice, check the deletion log. Posting sources here does nothing to improve the actual nintendocore article. Please refrain from voting Keep, sources exist, without actually editing the article to assert that it doesn't fail WP:NEO, WP:NOR, and WP:V. --Leon Sword 01:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fine? I just re-wrote the article a little, and added some sources. I don't see what the big deal is. The solution to poor sourcing is not deletion, when sources exist - it's clean-up. --Haemo 03:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leon Sword, it does help more to improve the article, but AFD is not cleanup. As one of the formally accepted outcomes of an AFD discussion is, in fact, sending to cleanup, it is not a requirement that the cleanup actually take place. (Lamentably, too often little actual cleanup is done afterward.) It is not a requirement that an editor make changes to the article for their !vote to !count towards consensus. Some other editor may have greater interest in making those changes, and the editor who has provided them in discussion has saved the second editor some time. --Dhartung | Talk 04:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True, the solution to no sources is not deletion, however, when some user goes and reads an article like nintendocore that had no sources, they are left thinking who made this stuff up? Surely this can't be for real. Cleanup tags are only good for articles which assert notability. The main problem with this article is that the term "nintendocore" is a neologism, although the article is about a supposed music genre, the term can also be used to describe Nintendo fanaticism. It's a neologism.--Leon Sword 04:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom and WP:V. —dustmite 02:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, but someone who knows something about the subject should really give this article a hand up. --Dhartung | Talk 04:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and Merge with Nintendo Entertainment System if applicable. -Kmaguir1 15:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Haemo's cleanup - now properly sourced and verifiable. Also - while the term may be used as a neologism to describe Nintendo fanaticism, that doesn't turn the music genre into an illegitimate topic for Wikipedia.schi ^talk 18:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep There are sources now at the bottom of the article, so it is verifiable. I don't see any other reason to delete it. If it is, as Leon alleges, a neolgoism, just make a disambiguation distinction. Barsportsunlimited 22:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. The revisions made since nomination have provided two sources. In tandem, I'm happy that the term is verifiable. WP:MUSIC does not address genres. There is a notable band performing the genre per the article: the Minibosses. However, neither their article nor their website use the term. There are other artists who do link to the article, however. In short, I think this topic is right on the cusp of notability, and I'm thinking to err on the side of conservative deleting and keep the article. —C.Fred (talk) 22:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Term appears to be in common usage in the press/on the web and is therefore notable. A1octopus 23:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep but merge -- This music is sort of like the cult of fans that like the SID tunes of Commodore 64. I would merge over to Video_game_music#Video_game_music_outside_of_video_games, which currently lists Nintendocore as a subgenre ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_music#Related_music_genres ). Not strong enough to stand on its own yet, but should be kept overall. Guroadrunner 23:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.