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The result was no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:57, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable musician/person. I looked and looked, but all I find is a blog, Youtube and Facebook references. If view counts on Youtube make someone notable, then he is notable. :- ) Don 05:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I passed this through AfC last night, but looking back I can't think why I did. I certainly would have expected to have tagged it at least as {{blp refimprove}} and {{wikify}}. Anyway, no notability supported by reliable sources. --Ritchie333 (talk) 09:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I just edited the article, added a few reliable sources. What sources do you need on verify citation [12]? -> All the releases are from "No Parade" , you can also find these releases on Amazon, Spotify, Beatport with the name of the label/company! Co-writes and productions, credits & releases -> What do you need here, these are a bunch of people within the music business he worked with/for. Should the form be edited?! --M-Preacher (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I believe all this stuff has be released, that is easy the easy part to prove. The hard part to prove is: Does someone who is reliable and respected care enough to write something about nim? -- :- ) Don 15:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I checked the added references and they seem to check out, however the problem now is that I believe he was the writer and/or producer. Hitting a national charts does not seem to apply according to Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for composers and lyricists. If I am reading things correctly. -- :- ) Don 16:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - No opinion about notability, but the green links need to be removed from the lead if this is kept. Hell, I'll just save my breath and do it now. Carrite (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - He did hit several national charts: Holland + Belgium + Germany + iTunes Charts | another example: Jesus On Extasy - Stay with me | written with Michelle Leonard was #1 German Charts also licensed under the major label Sony BMG Music Entertainment Confirmation Chart Entry This does satisfy more criterions/notabilities of [for musicians and ensembles]--M-Preacher (talk) 19:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - If you check the log, I took out over 1kB of links going everywhere in the world. -- :- ) Don 23:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - He did hit several national charts: Holland + Belgium + Germany + iTunes Charts | another example: Jesus On Extasy - Stay with me | written with Michelle Leonard was #1 German Charts also licensed under the major label Sony BMG Music Entertainment Confirmation Chart Entry This does satisfy more criterions/notabilities of [for musicians and ensembles]--M-Preacher (talk) 19:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment -So what is the current status? Did someone check the page/article now, there is enough said to satisfy the criterions/notablilities..
- This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. -> Added
- This article relies on references to primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject. -> more other independent sources added (see above)
- This article's references may not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable sources. -> added and listed more reliable sources
--M-Preacher (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - per cite 1 & 2 put together, as a song writer per WP:COMPOSER: "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." Notable composition according to WP:NSONG: "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, or ...." The song written made the German charts, so I believe he meets the notability requirement as a composer. I don't see any thing else significant. As of this time, I do not believe notability for YouTube work has ben established. Take your trout home and fry him up for dinner, Ritchie333 -- :- ) Don 19:40, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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