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The result was redirect to Škoda 1203. MBisanz talk 00:11, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable auto manufacturer; no hits for "Ocelot Auto" on Google Books, Google News, or Google News archives, except this, obviously a false positive. CtP (t • c) 15:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We need someone who reads Czech.When I searched for sources in Czech, I found things that convinced me that there was an auto manufacturor called Ocelot. But I don't read Czech, so I have no idea whether it is an auto company that meets Wikipedia's notability criteria or not. If there's someone who has the skills needed to write an article about this company, with reliable sources even if they aren't in English, I'd vote Go for it. But with the absence of English-language sources, if there isn't a person taking on the job of writing an article about this company, I'd have to say Delete the existing article until such time as someone writes an article that meets Wikipedia's basic standards. I think that's the most nuanced !vote I've ever made on an AfD. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:34, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]- Delete per nom. Harry the Dog WOOF 15:34, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I don't speak Czech, but everything I can see points to it simply being a company who took on the rights to the Skoda 1203/TAZ 1500 vans. Even on the Czech Google, however, one of the top links is a Grand Theft Auto wiki page for the Ocelot on that game, another the Ocelot/Foxhound US army vehicle, and a Minecraft creature! [1] and [2] - these are almost certainly unreliable sources, but they're what I've used to try and get my head around who Ocelot Auto actually are. (note the first one is actually a Slovak link, so that's yet another translator needed!) Trnavské automobilové závody links to Ocelot Auto, and one of the sources I found is also present in that article, so perhaps some kind of merge may be in order? [3] is the company's website. Lukeno94 (talk) 15:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. It seems this book and this book discuss the vehicle. More sources might exist, although many of them might be unavailable online. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:14, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment. No hits for Ocelot Auto at iDNES, Lidové noviny or Deník. Cloudz679 05:25, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Theopolisme 02:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The ref picked up by Toshio above discusses a dune buggy designed by "Roy Dickey" in 1967 - the chances of any of this happening in Czechoslovakia seem minimal, it's likely another vehicle of the same name. See [4] - it seems the company took over production of the Škoda 1203 and the TAZ 1500 and now only makes spare parts. Not sure if this company is notable. - filelakeshoe 12:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 00:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - hasn't been shown to meet the general notability guideline, due to an absence of reliable sources, despite thorough checking by multiple editors in multiple languages. Cloudz679 09:14, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This article doesn't meet the notability criteria. No one who is currently looking at it seems to have the necessary sources to write a better article. So, with no prejudice against recreation at a later time by someone who has a good collection of books about Czech automotive history, I don't think we need to hold onto this article in hopes that maybe it will improve. I've stricken my less decisive vote above. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Per the above comments, which I agree with, my preference would be to redirect to Škoda 1203 to preserve the page history. I edited that article to specify that the "small company located near Vrchlabí" is Ocelot Auto. - filelakeshoe 13:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- KEEP - found links and references and added same.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 15:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You added two promotional websites - not sure they meet the verifiability criteria. Cloudz679 16:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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