- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. If requested, I will restore the article to the author's private draft space so that they can try to improve it. MelanieN (talk) 03:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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Originally had this as a BLP prod-but refs were added. Anyway, questionable notability that is also a autobio. Wgolf (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that, can you give a few tips on how to remove the autobio while still crediting Butch's accomplishments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 00:44, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Don't mean to over-encumber you with messages, just would like to resolve this. To get rid of the autobiography format, I can delete the brands Butch has worked with and who he has collaborated with if that helps. Just want to know what the best move is and will gladly do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 01:05, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment-the autobio was since I thought you were the one who the page was about when I saw the name, sorry about that! Still this does have questionable notability. This is still a COI at least as well. Wgolf (talk) 01:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
No problem! I can either back up any information provided here, or can delete anything that is still a conflict of interest. Very flexible on this end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 01:20, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as Wgolf and I both clicked "Review" and I also planned to nominate since none of this actually gives any context with how he's notable and improvable. SwisterTwister talk 05:43, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm trying to supply information to prove his notability, however you guys are not giving me the chance to provide that information. Nothing stated on his page is false. And I am still willing to delete any part that is causing trouble. Can you please give a more detailed response other than "not notable", as I've worked hard on creating Butch's page and would like to edit it to fit your guidelines rather than have it completely terminated because you aren't aware of the artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 17:35, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Weak delete - My vote is more for re-listing in two weeks. If the above user can provide further proof of notability, I'd have no problems. But as it stands, most of the sources used are not reliable. That said, there are plenty of Philadelphia and Music sources that pass reliability. If this user improves reference formatting and provides additional sourcing, strike out my delete vote. DaltonCastle (talk) 22:02, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
I have since updated the formatting of the References that are uploaded and provided additional ones as well. I have also contacted Butch and he has sent me tour flyers, pictures, etc to back up any claims made on his Wiki page that aren't in writing in some way, shape or form. I can send them to you or upload them on Wiki Commons. If this is not sufficient, again I cannot harp enough that I will remove the specific information that is not backed up in writing. I need more communication from the moderators so that I can make this page acceptable. There is certainly information provided here that is backed up in the references and deserves to stay up. Thank you for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 02:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I forgot to include that Butch's page should not be marked as an orphan page either. Please visit "JuTaun"'s page, Butch is listed as their drummer but is not linked as we just created his page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bserianni (talk • contribs) 02:21, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GabeIglesia (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. GabeIglesia (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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