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The result was Delete --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 16:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ofer shouval (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Strongly suspect hoax. Googling for the name brings up only a few hits, including some girls' Facebook, a soccer club, and a band self-promotion site (seems to be a sort of MySpace Jr.) with a semi-incoherent description. Article is full of hyperbole and unsourced claims of highly dubious veracity. Oh, and the title is poorly capitalized too. — Gwalla | Talk 23:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. —— Gwalla | Talk 23:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - While I agree it looks hoaxy, it might just be really poor writing. (In fact, it's really poor writing either way.) I found a hit that has the potential to show him to be for real. I am personally acquainted with the principals of that web site and I am attempting to find out if they can verify anything. (BTW - if your comment was about that site: rather than Myspace Jr., it's actually Myspace on steroids - strictly for indy music.) Frank | talk 00:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - notability not established, may be a hoax. Frank | talk 18:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as hoax. The article is completely unsourced. It is also self-contradictory, stating that the subject was "[r]ecently" seen at a Deftones concert but later stating that "he hasn’t been seen for over 5 years" and lives on the streets of New York with the homeless. The article says Shouval has worked as a technician and producer and with artists such as My Chemical Romance and Tool, yet we have articles on all of those bands' albums and none of them list him as a producer. The citation found by Frank from Reverbnation.com identifies Shouval as a member of a band called Co'Relous, which is not mentioned in this article, and says nothing about his work with My Chemical Romance or Tool. Also, the Reverbnation page indicates that he and a fellow band member used to do homework and play videogames together, whereas this article says Shouval was born in 1949 and thus would have been 23 years old by the time home videogame consoles were introduced. This may be a hoax created by or on behalf of the Co'Relous band member as a joke, but at any rate it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:A. Aside from what would appear to be a trivial mention above, the bio is completely unverifiable through the utter lack of sources. Ohconfucius (talk) 03:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. It completely lacks sources, and makes potentially controversial assertions about a living person. silly rabbit (talk) 05:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- CommentThis is ridiculous. How can you all insult such a legend. I stood side by side with Ofer at a greenpeace rally. He deserves respect. My biggest complaint is that this is the first article about him on WikiPedia.
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