Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Once Upon a Time in Bolivia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Once Upon a Time in Bolivia

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This doesn't appear to meet any of the criteria at WP:NFILMS. Being shown at various film festivals is not enough to show notability. Article was created by the film's writer/producer/director.Mdtemp (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because his notability is tied to this film's notability.

Comment. The film does seem to have received some coverage in Spanish language newspapers. It's fairly light, but it does discuss the film in general and the awards. Of the awards, I will say that the one from The Indie Fest has always sort of been a bit of a dodgy award for me as far as notability giving goes because the contest is held 3 times a year and they give out about 80-90 prizes each time. It kind of feels like it's one of those awards where they give a prize to anyone willing to pay the $60+ to submit their film. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These awards don't seem significant. The one just mentioned is more of a participation award. The London award is for a film festival that specials in low budget British films. Apparently in 2013 there were only two foreign language feature films, which is probably why the international category doesn't exist for the 2014 festival. I have no idea how significant winning the best Andean feature film is at the Pasto film festival, but I'm claiming these awards do not meet the notability standards for films. I'll admit I'm also inclined to look unfavorably on autobiographies. Although that's not sufficient for deletion, I think it puts the burden of proof on the article's creator.Mdtemp (talk) 15:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bolivia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redircet Patrick L. Cordova to Once Upon a Time in Bolivia. There's some coverage, there's likely to be more in non-internet enabled Bolivian newspapers. But there's probablt not enough for two articles. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My vote is a little more complicated than I can put in a bullet. First, there's nothing that shows Cordova meets any notability criteria outside of his involvement with this film so a redirect is reasonable--if the film is notable. However, I don't see that the film meets any of the criteria at WP:NFILMS, so I would recommend deleting both articles. Papaursa (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:36, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete Lacks significant independent coverage and fails to meet any of the notability criteria for films--such as major awards or major film reviews. I cannot find the original source for the claim of being "the best Bolivian film in a decade"--my search of every mention of this claim involves Cordova, which means it's not independent, or appears as a repeated unsourced claim. I believe that's not enough to show significant coverage from independent reliable sources. The film is more notable than Cordova, who appears to have written both articles, but I don't think it meets any notability standards. You can change my vote if the original source of that claim turns out to be a reliable independent source. I notice that claim isn't mentioned in the film's ad, so I'm wondering if there really is a good source for that claim. 131.118.229.17 (talk) 22:45, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.