Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operas by original title and English title

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete; this is something that is already handled using redirects.  RasputinAXP  c 13:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me like this article is pointless. If you want to note the original title of an opera, it should be on the article for that opera. Quite why anyone would want to look at a simple list of operas with their original titles, I don't know. I think my problem then is that this is too idiosyncratic to be encyclopedic mgekelly 02:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Created a month ago and still has just two entries. Maybe the creator gave up? Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment we should probably create redirs from the less common title to the more common one. M1ss1ontomars2k4 04:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and do it then. mgekelly 04:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment / Question: Of course all notable opera entries should have redirects from their original and English titles. But is it technically possible to assign a category to a redirect page, so that both title forms would show up in a category listing? Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes, this is possible. See this test that I just made. Jude (talk,contribs,email) 09:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, good to know. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, pointless article. --Terence Ong 08:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Operacruft? Jude (talk,contribs,email) 09:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - there are such lists out there, and this one could potentially be of some value. --Arny 17:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep --GTubio 18:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and create redirects. Imagine a similar list for Chinese films with their English titles. An article like that would be pointlessly long. Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 23:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article isn't about Chinese films. It's about operas. The standard repertory is not a long list. See List of famous operas. Fg2 03:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's exactly what a list is for. Actually, a list of Chinese films with English names would be awesome ;) 11:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm aware of that. I was using an example under similar circumstances. If it doesn't work in the example, it shouldn't work here. → Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 03:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and expand. If you know the title in the original language or in English, you can look up the other. Helpful for searching for recordings, books etc. Useful index to knowledge. Fg2 03:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't see how this is helpful. If you are looking for an opera, you can look up the specific page of that opera and find out its alternative title. If you look at a single coposer's page too, that would normally have the original and translated titles of all major works. mgekelly 03:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Agree with Kelly. Can't see how this can ever be useful. Rense 20:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The only problem I can see with it is that it's a stub. It would be nice to expand it, actually,to include date and place of first performance.Apollo 11:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.