Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxeon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jayjg ^(talk) 01:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oxeon

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Swedish manufacturer of specialised fabrics. This image description confirms the author's COI. No evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. —Rettetast (talk) 18:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:29, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Interest seems quite specialized but searching for the product names rather than just the company name may help improve references. I'm fairly convinced by the references for product use in Formula 1 cars that WP:ORG has been met using reasonable independent references. It's a pity that someone deleting the AfD tag makes this look unnecessarily suspicious. Fæ (talk) 13:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- FYI, all three footnotes originate from Oxeon press releases and are not independently sourced. ScottyBerg (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Taking on board your comments, I have checked through sources available in Google News. I find Netcomposites, Fibre2Fashion, Advanced Composites Bulletin and JEC Composites. I find it hard to believe that all sources for this industry are only regurgitating press releases with no editorial control (though I can believe that some are). I suggest this AfD continue in order to reach a consensus rather than deleting with no discussion. Yes, a sock may have been involved in promoting this company but that does not invalidate verifiable sources. Fæ (talk) 16:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - ~~Perhaps not all the sourcing is dependent on the company, but~~ With the exception of two sources on a hockey stick recall, neither mentioning Oxeon, it appears that all the sourcing for this article consists either of press releases or republications of press releases in industry publications. The aspect that you cite, on Formula One, is directly sourced to company press releases and as best as I can see has not received independent, verifiable coverage. The efforts by this company to promote itself in Wikipedia make it incumbent to examine carefully all claims and "sourcing" provided in this article. For instance, there is a footnote to an article in CompositesWorld. [1]. But I searched google and found substantially the same article posted elsewhere [link cannot be posted], replete with the same quotes and much the same material, credited at the bottom to "Oxeon AB." The reason Wikipedia can't host an article like this, without independent sourcing, is that we may well be doing an injustice to other companies providing similar or competitive products that do not have an employee editing Wikipedia. Note: I was prevented from posting the second link because the link was on the spam blacklist!!!ScottyBerg (talk) 17:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - The hockeystick recall appeared to be due to paint from China rather than the textiles involved, I have removed these on that basis. I have also removed the Formula One example and references as I agree that these seemed to only regurgitate press releases. Fæ (talk) 08:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:COMPANY. Advertising for non-notable company. Created by company official using user account "Donald Draper" and sockpuppet "Richie tenenbaum." See [2]. ScottyBerg (talk) 15:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changing to Speedy Delete. Created by an admitted company employee who has been brazenly spamming Wikipedia with advertising for this company. Article speedied by Pascal Tesson as unambiguous advertising on 5/21; On 5/24 this article and at least one other spam article, also speedied, was recreated by the same editor, who is an admitted officer of the company. Article creator is using a sockpuppet, "Richie tenenbaum" to remove maintenance, afd and speedy templates. Wikipedia is not an advertising directory and we should not countenance this kind of behavior. ScottyBerg (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I just realized that this article was previously deleted, but was re-created by this user. It has been listed again for speedy deletion. ScottyBerg (talk) 15:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed, speedy would have to be uncontested regardless of deletion history of the article or that the original creator may be a sock. Fæ (talk) 16:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Floridly non-neutral in tone: Oxeon now is a leading actor in Spread Tow Fabrics, using their novel spreading technology.... - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've re-written some of the text to neutralize the tone. Tone of itself is a poor reason for deletion. Fæ (talk) 08:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I agree and I commend Fæ for his good work on the article. However, what's left does not demonstrate notability. ScottyBerg (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.