Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paddy Barrett

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. Article was created by a sock of User:BluesFan1930, speedied under G5 RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paddy Barrett

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was that he has Not made an appearance in a Fully Professional League so does not pass WP:Footy nor does he meet WP:GNG. Article is also a close copy of [1] While the copyright concerns no longer apply, the notability concerns remain valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Delete - Plays for Dundalk F.C. which is in the Premier Division(highest) of the League of Ireland, not listed on the list of fully professional leagues. According to article he has played last two years there both they won championship. Looking at ESPN, this was most recent game where he played 2017–18 UEFA Champions League, subbing in at 64'. UEFA is a competitive tournament. and WP:FOOTY says Players who have played in a competitive game between two teams from fully-professional leagues. WikiVirusC^(talk) 23:45, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The League of Ireland is listed at WP:FPL under the heading "Top level leagues which are not fully professional". (Emphasis added). Playing in this league does not confer notability per WP:NFOOTY. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It clearly is. Striked old vote. WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:14, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Copying the following (without any suggestion of endorsement) from the talk page of this AfD where it was put seemingly by mistake..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:24, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Barrett has played for two SPL clubs. He has also played for big Irish clubs and was part of a Dundalk side that made history becoming first Irish side to reach champions league play off. Then He played on the Europa league group stages Against AZ Alkmarr, Zenit and Tel Aviv. Surely that makes him "notable" enough for you guys. JohnnyTheWhite99 (talk) 22:09, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

He didn't play a single match for Dundee, and isn't notable enough per WP:GNG for his youth career at Aberdeen to mean anything. His Europa League group stage appearences also don't count as notable as Dundalk is in a top league that isn't fully professional. LampGenie01 (talk) 12:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete He hasn't played in a single match for Dundee, and I don't think he satisifies the wider criteria of WP:GNG, which means his youth career at Aberdeen can't be used as an indication of notability. LampGenie01 (talk) 12:35, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Further comments put in the wrong place moved here..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Barrett plays on a professional contract with Dundalk FC on a professional basis (plays 6 days a week as a job). He is clearly notable. JohnnyTheWhite99 (talk) 15:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

But the guidelines state that "Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a competitive game between two teams from fully-professional leagues, will generally be regarded as notable.". Nowhere does it mention what type of contract they have. LampGenie01 (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

n Seriously just forget the guideline. To be honest wiki guidelines are a joke. He's done enough to be considered notable and there is no need to delete the hard work and hours I've put in on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyTheWhite99 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I can't do that I'm afraid. My decision above still stands. LampGenie01 (talk) 17:51, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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