Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Piezoelectric audio amplifier
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Electronic amplifier#Power amplifiers by application. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:31, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The article discusses a specific category of products made by Sonitron n.v., which is not notable. Olli Niemitalo (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as WP:ADVERT. Qworty (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep not written like an ad, despite proprietary refs. Greglocock (talk) 22:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The numbers and design parameters discussed in the article refer to specific Sonitron products that are intended for portable devices, hence the talk about DC-DC converters. I'm afraid that if that was cleaned out then there would be not much left of the article. The Maxim reference does not appear to be used as a source. Olli Niemitalo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- And where is the guideline that says that a NPOV article cannot use freely available propritary information? If every ghit was for a sonotron device I'd agree with you. It doesn't. So i don't.Greglocock (talk) 02:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not my gist. The problem is that the article generalizes a Sonitron product category as a dictionary subject. I get no proper Google Books or Google Scholar hits for "piezoelectric audio amplifier" and only one hit for the unobfuscated "piezo audio amplifier". Olli Niemitalo (talk) 08:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- And where is the guideline that says that a NPOV article cannot use freely available propritary information? If every ghit was for a sonotron device I'd agree with you. It doesn't. So i don't.Greglocock (talk) 02:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The numbers and design parameters discussed in the article refer to specific Sonitron products that are intended for portable devices, hence the talk about DC-DC converters. I'm afraid that if that was cleaned out then there would be not much left of the article. The Maxim reference does not appear to be used as a source. Olli Niemitalo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
dendent I know nothing about these bloody things but in 5 seconds got to http://www.eetimes.com/design/audio-design/4010012/Amplifier-considerations-for-driving-ceramic-piezoelectric-speakers-Part-1-of-2- which seems to imply that real engineers, if not scholars, are writing about them. What is your vendetta? Greglocock (talk) 01:24, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Quoting Wikipedia:Notability: "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article". That EE Times article does not count: It has been written by a Maxim engineer and in part 2 it effectively advertises the MAX9788 amplifier with an integrated charge pump. I wouldn't mind seeing a sub/section "Piezoelectric speaker amplifiers in mobile devices" in say Audio amplifier. Olli Niemitalo (talk) 07:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah,so it's not Sonotron in particular, it's the use of any named component in an article about it? ridiculous.Greglocock (talk) 10:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Electronic_amplifier#Types_of_amplifier or Audio amplifier. Notability not established. Title makes it sound like the piezo is part of the amplifier but actually it is just an audio amplifier optimized for driving a piezo. This, in my estimation, is not enough of a differentiation to merit a separate amplifier article. -—Kvng 04:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- A merge is fine by me if there's a rewrite to make it clear what are the general considerations and what is manufacturer-specific stuff. I agree with your points. Olli Niemitalo (talk) 12:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Electronic amplifier#Types of amplifier, per User:Kvng, apparent failure to meet WP:GNG. -- Trevj (talk) 09:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Electronic amplifier#Types of amplifier, per User:Kvng. Only two Google book hits,[1] and its not even clear that piezoelectric audio amplifier is in either book. I didn't find any news article mentioning "piezoelectric audio amplifier." What comes up is piezoelectric transducer, piezoelectric crystal, piezoelectric actuator, piezoelectric acoustic transducers, and audio amplifiers that drive piezoelectric speakers. Piezoelectric audio amplifier is not even listed in any of the 340+ PAA abbreviations at acronymattic.com. The only relevant PAA abbreviation I found there is power amplifier assembly (PAA). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:21, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have added a summary (with ref) of this article to Electronic_amplifier#Power_amplifiers_by_application. I beleive this is about all that needs to be mentioned at this time in the encyclopedia about this topic. -—Kvng 15:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.