Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince Herbert (Monty Python)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was spank at the Castle Anthrax (delete). Kwsn (Ni!) 07:53, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Herbert (Monty Python)

The article is just a short in universe recitation of facts from the plot section of the Holy Grail article, has no notability or referencing to speak of, and therefore doesn't need to be its own article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:34, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep as famous for smarmy punchlines such as "What, the curtains?" Bearian'sBooties (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearian'sBooties (talk • contribs) [reply]
Comment: I think Monty Python characters are likely to be notable, but I'd like to see references and input from Monty Python experts before a final decision is made on this AFD. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember, notability is not inherited, so just because the movie and the broadway show are notable, doesn't mean each character is. If you suspect it is notable, we need to see detailed analysis on how the character was created, how the filming went, and so forth to establish notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Monty Python experts have no special say in this, unless they can give sources. Which, at the moment, it lacks, which in turn makes this not notable, which should be deleted. There are lots of Monty-Python related articles that need to be axed as well. I (talk) 23:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Love the movie, would probably love spamalot. However this is a minor character, unnoted in the wider world. Noone reliable (scholars, books, news articles) has written about it so delete - Peripitus (Talk) 00:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete --- As Peripitus -- great movie, great character, would keep if WP were a collection of information and great pages. But it's an encyclopedia discussing real world events. I would think that only frequently recurring MP characters or those that have inspired independent commentary would be notable. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 00:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The character also plays a fairly large role in the Broadway production. There is likely enough material overall to warrant at least a short article. • Lawrence Cohen 06:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He does play a larger role than in the movie, but still needs sources to prove he's notable. Which he lacks. I (talk) 08:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No secondary sources to establish notability or provide real world context. Jay32183 (talk) 21:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.