Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Professional Petroleum Data Management Association

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:14, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Professional Petroleum Data Management Association

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Fails WP:NORG; a standard WP:BEFORE shows only brief mentions in Google Books. All the sources in the article are WP:PRIMARY and I can't locate any third-party sources online. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:13, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:37, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - please note that I am a staff member of the PPDM Association (paid contribution notice).

I have some articles proving our notability (I think at least), I can request them to be added if they are the right type but here they are:

- Journal of Petroleum Technology - https://jpt.spe.org/ppdm-launches-data-as-a-national-resource-hub

- Journal of Petroleum Technology - https://jpt.spe.org/indonesia-adopts-ppdm-data-model-industry-standard

- Digital Energy Journal - https://www.digitalenergyjournal.com/company/PPDM/f8c6fa95.aspx

- Ministry of Oil and Gas India - http://petroleum.nic.in/sites/default/files/GIPIP_Final_approved.pdf

- ETL Solutions - https://etlsolutions.com/understanding-complexity-in-ppdm-data-management/

- OSDU - https://osduforum.org/data-def-ppdm/

- Calgary Geoscience Data Managers Society - https://www.cspg.org/common/Uploaded%20files/pdfs/documents/technical/division_talks/operations/02202019.pdf

- Daily Oil Journal - https://www.dailyoilbulletin.com/article/2021/8/11/ppdm-launching-what-is-a-facility-initiative/ EliseMS2022 (talk) 21:22, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The references provided have to be interpreted in the context of Primary Sources Wikipedia:Identifying and using primary sources. When I "drilled down" (inadvertent pun) into the links I didn't see anything that would establish notability. Here is an independent link https://www.mrt.com/business/oil/article/Reducing-emissions-will-be-done-through-innovation-16612688.php but I really cannot find enough (in my opinion) to support the article. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 22:25, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:ORG. Most of the above sources are not really independent. We need independent sources like mainstream press. LibStar (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY, but if and only if someone adds the found sources. Bearian (talk) 19:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:15, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - there are many networking, training, and associations on many topics; there is nothing I see which makes (or has made) this particular organization notable. In the edit history; There are two "single use" accounts responsible for an article with no support, this suggests (but may not be the case) that this entry may have been established as marketing without disclosure. In the AFD discussion "paid editing" is being acknowledged which is good. I will look at the sourcing provided to see if I should reevaluate my conclusion. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There are few mentions of this association, they seem to have set a data standard for the industry. I saw mention of it in a few items in GScholar, one was from a peer reviewed journal in Azerbijan. I don't think it's a RS, but there seems to be some usage of this association and their tools. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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