- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Delete. A close call numerically, but I don't see anything to make me think this is anything but bandcruft. --RoySmith 02:01, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Self described non-notable band, does not meet WP:MUSIC. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 03:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nomination. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 03:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. A band that has been around for 5 years and continues to thrive is notable in itself. They claim to have 4 releases, and are currently working on a new one. WP:MUSIC is not policy and should not be treated as such. However, the article does need heavy cleanup to remove what seems to be mostly self-promotion. I'll volunteer to do this. --Aleron235 03:54, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. While it's not policy, WP:NMG is a sensible way to determine if a band is worthy of inclusion. This band is not. PJM 04:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, 4 albums + 1 greatest hits. Kappa 04:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Please note that these albums are self-made: [1]. The band is apparently unsigned.PJM 04:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- See my comment below. Shackrock has produced other bands as well. [2]
Zordrac 07:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the info, but I'm not convinced that Shackrock is a notable enough label. PJM 12:25, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Self-produced recordings don't meet WP:MUSIC--apparently unsigned and very local. 24.17.48.241 05:16, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Borderline WP:NMG due to the albums. However, the lack of an Allmusic.com article and less than 600 Google results [3]indicate that they are just on the wrong side of the notability divide for mine. Capitalistroadster 05:20, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Add to the evidence against, the lack of Amazon presence, which includes some rather obscure bands and albums. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- comment can we settle on one shortcut to use in this discussion between WP:MUSIC and WP:NMG. I didn't know until a second ago that they were the same thing!!!--Alhutch 06:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Since the Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines page offers both shortcuts, people will tend to use their freedom of choice. PJM 12:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - 5 albums, signed artist through ShackRock [4], 595 google hits. That seems enough to assert notoriety to me. Zordrac 07:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Wikipedia is not AMG, is not Ultimate Band List, and this act is generally unsigned. The single release on a small indie is insufficient for what is, essentially, a gigging band. Nothing against them, but fan-generated and vanity band articles are all but worthless: establish that this is a band that is referred to that it is a topic that needs explication, and forget niggling over X copies or Y "records" (there are CD presses in most for-hire recording studios now, folks: you can go in and have a CD made of your jam session). Geogre 17:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as per Geogre. Pete.Hurd 21:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:MUSIC --Aranda 56) 03:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.