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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Quite a bit of evidence has been provided to suggest the subject is notable. No consensus is a plausible result here, although I think this AfD is leaning ever so slightly towards retaining the article. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R. C. Johnson

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only reason this was not speedy deleted was because a single purpose account deleted the prod Misterdiscreet (talk) 20:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: As the prod said, "holding a position at a university does not in itself satisfy WP:BIO". Can't see any other notability. -- Boing! said Zebedee 16:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep He's athletic director at the University of Memphis, a Division I school. Their basketball coach would be notable; he's the person who's the senior administrative office who hires (and recently fired) the basketball coach. There should be no problem finding references. Did the nominator even try to look? In fact, right above in the preset searches, the G News source lists 2040 references. Limiting it to "Memphis still gives 1130. There's 16 in 2010 alone. I added a few of them. I don't pay much attention to this subject, but even I recognize him as notable. It is, of course, a shame that the article did not show this more clearly, but it can be improved. It is really discouraging to see the current approach to BLPs that happen to be currently unsourced: nominate them for deletion without looking. I have not the least objection to deleting BLPs that cannot be reasonably sourced, but to nominate without even checking Google News is careless. DGG ( talk ) 08:16, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
notability is not inherited. R. C. Johnson is no more notable for hiring someone notable than Barry Bond's knee is notable for being a body part of Mr. Barry Bonds Misterdiscreet (talk) 15:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's an improper use of the term. not inherited means that because he is notable, we do not imply that everyone who is associated with him is notable also, such as his secretary. If a particular organizational office or officer is notable because of his function, everyone there with a yet more inclusive function is notable also. is notable, In any case, a sufficient argument for notability is the hundreds of articles talking specifically about him. A person whose hiring makes multiple news stories, even out of the region, is notable. DGG ( talk ) 17:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the CBS Sports "article" is actually a message board post which WP:SPS addresses. as for the other articles, R.C. Johnson is only mentioned in passing and in the case of the last article, being interviewed by a local news channel no more makes R.C. Johnson notable than it makes Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Atkinson (software developer) (2nd nomination) notable, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tito Munoz notable, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zach Feinstein notable, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Van Dijck notable, etc. using your criterion, i would be notable since i was interviewed in high school while running for class president! Misterdiscreet (talk) 16:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are being extremely fact selective in singling out two of the links I provided. I strongly disagree with your characterization that the other articles you did NOT address in detail just mention him in passing. Take for example this Associated Press article at CBS news. The article quotes him directly four times. He is also quoted directly numerous times in this USA Today article.
Now let's look at all of the articles I *didn't* mention. Do a google search for "R. C. Johnson" at each of the following sites and this is how many hits you get: USA Today - 315; NY Times 166; Washington Post - 51. You are welcome to search for him at other major newspapers and media outlets on your own.
Don't waste your time picking out a few of these that are not full articles. Many of them are - far more than enough to establish notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Repo-Box (talk • contribs) 19:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. Has been athletic director at three major universities, Miami of Ohio, Temple and Memphis. Has been the subject of hundreds and hundreds of newspaper articles. A sampling of the articles, including articles The Philadelphia Inquirer (#17 paper in USA), The Cincinnati Post and The Commercial Appeal (the newspaper with the 70th largest circulation in the USA[1]), include: (1) Line's busy, long, in search of coach -- Johnson begins sorting initial list of candidates, McClatchy-Tribune Regional News , November 12, 2009, (2) University of Memphis athletic director R.C. Johnson mulling Tommy West's fate: Disappointed in team, will wait and see, McClatchy-Tribune Regional News, November 1, 2009, (3) Give Johnson credit for hire -- Bringing in Tranghese smart move for Tigers, The Commercial Appeal (Memphis, TN), September 16, 2009, (4) Time for Johnson to bow out, The Commercial Appeal, August 23, 2009, (5) R.C. Johnson speaks, The Commercial Appeal, August 1, 2009, (6) No laughing matter -- Tigers' AD Johnson is 'roasted'by pals, but it's no joke: His decisions seem half-baked, The Commercial Appeal, May 29, 2009, (7) Calkins: Memphis AD Johnson deserves roasting, Scripps Howard News Service, May 29, 2009, (8) Memphis releases R.C. Johnson statement, The Commercial Appeal, May 28, 2009, (9) A warning for Josh Pastner and R.C. Johnson, The Commercial Appeal, April 23, 2009, (10) Best is yet to come -- Johnson sees BCS conference, national title in Tigers' future, The Commercial Appeal, December 19, 2008, (11) Tigers to beef up facilities -- Johnson unveils plan to upgrade football complex, The Commercial Appeal, August 9, 2008, (12) Johnson is joining in chase for Big East, The Commercial Appeal, May 18, 2008, (13) U of M, Big East deny talk -- Johnson says report of courtship is premature, The Commercial Appeal, May 16, 2008, (14) Scholarship fund reaches new heights -- AD Johnson praises 'phenomenal success', The Commercial Appeal, June 23, 2007, (15) U of M's scholarship fund hits $5 million -- Tigers reach ambitious goal set by AD Johnson, The Commercial Appeal, July 7, 2006, (16) Tiger ticket sales near AD's goal -- With opener approaching, Johnson targets 20,000, The Commercial Appeal, August 12, 2005, (17) Tiger AD Johnson hospitalized, The Commercial Appeal, May 28, 2005, (18) Tiger AD to review policies -- Johnson: U of M needs unified discipline, The Commercial Appeal, January 26, 2005, (19) Tiger A.D. expects bid to Mobile bowl -- Strong fan support gives U of M postseason allure, Johnson says, The Commercial Appeal, November 21, 2004, (20) Five questions with R. C. Johnson U of M athletic director, The Commercial Appeal, October 14, 2004, (21) TIGER AD JOHNSON WILL PRESS FOR MOVE, The Commercial Appeal, April 12, 2004, (22) FIVE QUESTIONS WITH . . . R.C. JOHNSON ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, The Commercial Appeal, November 20, 2003, (23) TIGER FANS MAY WIN FIGHT TO PLAY UT - POPULAR OPINION COULD CHANGE JOHNSON'S MIND, The Commercial Appeal, November 14, 2003, (24) FIVE QUESTIONS WITH ... R. C. JOHNSON, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, The Commercial Appeal, September 25, 2003, (25) FIVE QUESTIONS WITH ... R. C. JOHNSON, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, The Commercial Appeal, September 4, 2003, (26) CALIPARI'S DEAL TO BE EXTENDED BY 1 YEAR, JOHNSON SET TO TAKE ACTION AFTER NIT TITLE, The Commercial Appeal, April 10, 2002, (27) TIGERS GIVE JOHNSON 5-YEAR EXTENSION, The Commercial Appeal, December 16, 2001, (28) U OF M'S JOHNSON HONORED AT LUNCHEON, The Commercial Appeal, December 28, 2000, (29) A LETTER FROM R.C. JOHNSON, The Commercial Appeal, December 24, 2000, (30) JOHNSON UNDECIDED ON SCHERER'S FUTURE \ DECISION MUST COME QUICKLY, The Commercial Appeal, November 16, 2000, (31) JOHNSON DENIES N.Y. STORY, The Commercial Appeal, February 18, 2000, (32) JOHNSON SAYS HE'S CONTACTED NO COACHES FOR JOB, The Commercial Appeal, December 5, 1999, (33) TIGER AD: 'TIC IS STILL MY COACH', JOHNSON ASKS FOR FAN SUPPORT, The Commercial Appeal, March 10, 1999, (34) JOHNSON, BY THE NUMBERS, The Commercial Appeal, February 12, 1999, (35) 'DISAPPOINTED' JOHNSON BACKS SCHERER, The Commercial Appeal, November 25, 1997, (36) JOHNSON BACKS SCHERER, TIGER AD HAS FAITH IN COACH, The Commercial Appeal, September 24, 1997, (37) JOHNSON WANTS NO CHANGES FOR WHILE, The Commercial Appeal, September 14, 1997, (38) JOHNSON PRAISES U OF M TV APPEAL, The Commercial Appeal, May 28, 1997, (39) JOHNSON'S EMOTIONS ARE MIXED, The Commercial Appeal, May 15, 1997, (40) ERA BEGINS AS SEARCH ENDS, JOHNSON CALLS CHOICE 'NO. 1', The Commercial Appeal, March 28, 1997, (41) JOHNSON: U OF M SEARCH NOT LIMITED, The Commercial Appeal, March 26, 1997, (42) JOHNSON SETS TARGET DATE IN COACH SEARCH, HIRING GOAL: MARCH 29, The Commercial Appeal, March 18, 1997, (43) TIGERS' JOHNSON, TULSA BASKETBALL COACH MEET, The Commercial Appeal, February 18, 1997, (44) JOHNSON GETS OK TO TALK TO BUFFS' COACH, The Commercial Appeal, February 5, 1997, (45) JOHNSON DELAYS SEARCH PANEL, The Commercial Appeal, February 2, 1997, (46) TIGERS STRAIN FOR VISIBILITY, JOHNSON EMPLOYS MARKET IDEAS, The Commercial Appeal, May 31, 1996, (47) JOHNSON HEARS REACTION, AD TO SPEAK WITH FINCH, The Commercial Appeal, March 16, 1996, (48) A NEW BEGINNING ..., JOHNSON SHOULD FIT IN WELL AS ATHLETIC DIRECTOR FOR U OF M, The Commercial Appeal, January 14, 1996, (49) JOHNSON LEAVES TEMPLE FOR MEMPHIS AD JOB, The Philadelphia Inquirer, December 30, 1995, (50) Johnson bolts Temple, becomes Memphis AD, The Cincinnati Post, December 30, 1995, (51) Temple's Johnson named U of M athletic director, The Commercial Appeal, December 30, 1995 (52) Temple Names Johnson, Delaware County Daily Times (Primos - Upper Darby, PA), May 10, 1994, and (53) TEMPLE NAMES JOHNSON AS ITS NEW AD, The Philadelphia Inquirer, May 10, 1994, (54) Big Ten job 'the ultimate,'says Miami's Johnson, The Cincinnati Post, December 13, 1993. Cbl62 (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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