Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rapolas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. No deletion rationale provided. If you want articles Merged, please pursue that possibility outside of AFD. AFD is for editors seeking article deletion. Sometimes articles are Merged but that is an ATD, it's not a goal that should sought here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:02, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rapolas

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It should be merged into Raphael (given name) Rafael Hello! 02:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge, this seems like it is a disambiguation page, erraneously created as article page. Sys64wiki (talk) 04:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It's a WP:NAMEPAGE, created as a WP:NAMEPAGE and not erroneously. On what policy should it be deleted?? ExRat (talk) 04:30, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's a Dynamic List of people specifically named Rapolas, not Raphael. It is used for navigation. There are multitudes of these lists for almost every name conceivable. No idea what the rationale of the nominator is. Why would Rapolas be merged with Raphael? Even the surname Raphael (literally the same name) has its own page. ExRat (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not making it clear. I want to merge it because it means Raphael in a different language. The article Raphael has a name list that includes the name "Raphael" and other cognates since it is the main name. Since "Rapolas" is a cognate of Raphael and it's article is a name list, it should be deleted and added into the name list part of "Raphael." Rafael Hello! 03:41, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Why should it be merged with Raphael? It's not the same name, it's a variant – a different name, with the same origin – but, otherwise, a different name. Look at the page John (given name), for example. All variants have separate entries. It's nonsensical to 1. merge a different (even related) name list to a list of individuals with another name. 2. Try to list every person who has a Wiki article on a single page who has a variant or cognate of a name; that would be extraordinarily cumbersome and unwieldy. Please read WP:NAMEPAGE. ExRat (talk) 04:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is ridiculous. First of all, why are you most of you writing so rude to me? And second, I made an article called "Rafael" that was a variant name but it got declined twice saying it should be merged with "Raphael." Rafael Hello! 14:33, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant page you were duplicating was Rafael (given name) not Raphael (given name) despite the reviewers posting the wrong link though they really should know better. The failure on behalf of User:Pythoncoder and User:Gobonobo to correct the error of User:Kovcszaln6 is unfortunate and led to confusion but the declines were correct. The page was also poorly formatted, omitted many valid entries and used an incorrect disambiguator though admittedly that is fixable during new page review. 204.111.137.20 (talk) 02:49, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This is a situation where some overlap is okay. Instances can both be included in the main Raphael (given name) page where appropriate (ideally in their own section) and also warrant having their own page for navigation reasons. – Ike Lek (talk) 06:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Lithuania. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. This is a name page, and there are multiple notable people with the name. Does the nom think that Ivan, Sean, etc. should also be merged to John (given name) just because they're related? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep arguably it should be speedy since User:Rafaelthegreat has failed to advance a rationale for deletion proposing the alternative action of merging instead which makes this eligible under WP:SK1 though the muddled !vote of User:Sys64wiki may call the eligibility into question (reminder to all deletion and merging are not adjacent options). There's no one standard for when sufficient entries are on a name page to spin off variants but considering the number of entries and the degree of variation this is well within the normal range and so can stand independently. 204.111.137.20 (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.