Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References in Samurai Jack

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 07:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete trivia and Cartoon Cruft which does not make much sense as a stand alone article--Porturology 00:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, helps users to understand the cultural background of Samurai Jack. Kappa 00:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. A fanpage somewhere is missing all of this information. Monkeyman^(talk) 00:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Trivia /fancruft. I don't see it's encyclopedic value. Fetofs ^Hello! 00:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into Samurai Jack. Content should at least stay. Royboycrashfan 01:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- The content, however, seems problematic; a lot of it being to the effect of "such-and-such on Samurai Jack resembles something else on some other show." And a lot of the such-and-suches seem to be pretty stock characters for action cartoons. To count as an encyclopedia-worthy reference, it should have to take more than a mere suggestion of plausibility. As it stands now, the article is more like "Things I've Been Reminded of While Watching Samurai Jack," hardly suitable for inclusion. Pop Secret 06:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well said, could probably be considered as original research - this does not apply to the other two lists which are at least based on fact even if they are nn. trivia--Porturology 07:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep if we have List of neologisms on The Simpsons and List of planets in Futurama, I don't see why we should get rid of this list. --djrobgordon 01:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Let's get rid of List of neologisms on The Simpsons and List of planets in Futurama too. This article is a Samurai Jack redlink farm. · rodii · 01:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only red links are episode names. If that's your only objection, then unlink them. --djrobgordon 02:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- Concurring with both the deletion of the nominated article (non-notable/list of trivia for the sake of trivia) and the other two lists named. Pop Secret 05:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Kappa. — Adrian~enwiki (talk) 02:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into Samurai Jack. That article is not overlong. Martinp 03:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per Kappa, unlink the redlinks per djrob, and wouldn't the name Cultural references in Samurai Jack be"""" more accurate? Ziggurat 03:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep, we have a history of some element of cartoon cruft. I'd cut the redlinks as suggested earlier, and the content needs streamlining. As an aside, List of neologisms on The Simpsons is a perfectly cromulent article, in my opinion. -- Samir T C 08:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete apparently original research, also listcruft, fancruft, a mass of redlinks we don't need filled and various other problems. Just zis Guy you know? 12:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Lots of things have reference lists. Maybe a rename. Staxringold 12:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep per Kappa, though I'm not too sure about it since it might be original research --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 12:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as trivial. I don't think that this article will be read by anyone but Samurai Jack fans, which would be okay if this were a fansite and not an encyclopedia. -- Kjkolb 13:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep reasonable subject for an article, doesn't meet my definition of original research: the show itself, and other shows mentioned, are the sources. See WP:NOR, especially the part about "source-based research". Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but improve per Pop Secret Percy Snoodle 14:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as fancruft. Eivind 14:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Kappa. - Wezzo 16:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as original research (and fancruft) per Pop Secret above. Fagstein 17:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as useful and organized JohnRussell 17:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per JzG. Mallocks 20:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Samurai Jack is a highly notable show by the Stephen Spielberg of American cartoon making. The references and influences of this work are very important. Cyde Weys 22:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Smell of WP:NOR being violated. --DV8 2XL 23:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:NOR is a guideline on the content of articles, not whether articles should be deleted. There are valid, notable, and verifiable references from Samurai Jack. Thus the article should exist. --Cyde Weys 23:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• delete non-encylopaediodic Richard cocks 00:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep Definately helps contextualize Samurai Jack with references back to Japanese folklore and Japanese film but also modern references. I would have thought the page was entirely original research as there was nowhere to find information like this. (why I started the article in the first place). Also other cartoons have similar pages Pop culture references in Family Guy and References to Star Trek in Futurama for example. Jack 23:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Oops I think I made a boo-boo with the original research! I meant that a list of references hadn't been written down. These references are fact, and were created with purpose. I would also like to agree with User:djrobgordon about removing the links to individual episodes and propose that all episodes are listed, with episode information, on Samurai Jack episode guide. There aren't enough people to create/maintain seperate pages for each episode. Jack 23:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Slight merge and delete. Merge to Samurai Jack episode guide (or individual episodes linked from there) and to Samarai Jack, as appropriate. There is something "useful" here, but it is still fancruft that doesn't warrant an article. --Karnesky 06:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Samurai jack episode guide. There are many valid allusions mentioned, but I don't think they deserve their own article. kotepho 08:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.