Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SMK Tunku Panglima Besar
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. The current notability guidelines for schools presume notability for high schools, as they are generally considered notable enough in their individual communities. English-language sources on a Malaysian high school would be few and far between; this does not indicate a lack of notability. (non-admin closure) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-encyclopedic article about a Malaysian high school that gives no indication of its notability. A quick google search does not turn up any reliable sources which could be used to establish notability or expand the article. Applicable policies include WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:GNG/WP:NRVE, and maybe WP:PROMOTION. Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 02:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 02:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Certainly in severe need of cleanup, but consensus is that all verified secondary schools are notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- How can it be verified if there are no references? Also I'm not entirely sure it's a secondary school; that was my best guess.... --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 11:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If you look at the Google search you yourself linked to you'll see enough information to verify its existence. That's enough for an article on a secondary school. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Google searches is a known argument NOT to use in AfDs.ZachFoutre (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Nobody is using any such argument. Perhaps you'd better reread. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Google searches is a known argument NOT to use in AfDs.ZachFoutre (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If you look at the Google search you yourself linked to you'll see enough information to verify its existence. That's enough for an article on a secondary school. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- How can it be verified if there are no references? Also I'm not entirely sure it's a secondary school; that was my best guess.... --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 11:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article does not have significant coverage in more than one secondary verified source to satisfy WP:GNGZachFoutre (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]- Comment. Account created a short time ago solely to vote for deletion in school AfDs. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Your point being?
- My point clearly being that using an account solely to try to delete articles is disruptive and not constructive. In addition to your current investigation for sockpuppetry. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm commenting on schools' articles - as are you. There is no rule against that. My aim is not solely "to try to delete articles", as my edit history demonstrates. However, I do notice that most of your recent edits have been personal attacks. ZachFoutre (talk) 13:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not personal attacks. Just drawing other editors' attention to the fact that you're a suspected sockpuppet with an account created solely to comment on school AfDs. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:19, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm commenting on schools' articles - as are you. There is no rule against that. My aim is not solely "to try to delete articles", as my edit history demonstrates. However, I do notice that most of your recent edits have been personal attacks. ZachFoutre (talk) 13:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- My point clearly being that using an account solely to try to delete articles is disruptive and not constructive. In addition to your current investigation for sockpuppetry. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Your point being?
- Struck per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birmingham Blue Coat School. Uncle G (talk) 15:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Account created a short time ago solely to vote for deletion in school AfDs. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - With help from Google Translate the links presented in the Google News search provided by the AfD templates at the top of this page confirm that this is a high school and show that it is notable enough to be selected for a corporate program to promote the study of English. The Google Books search gives hits in The Who's who, Malaysia and Singapore that seem to correspond to the earlier names of the school, though it's a bit difficult to tell for me as a non-Malay speaker because part of the name appears to mean something like "Great General" or "Great Commander", according to Google Translate. Notable by GNG, in any case, unless someone is going to claim that a school mentioned in national news isn't covered in greater depth by local media that isn't web-accessible or all the other places that a school would be independently documented. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 01:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.