Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Same Difference (Duo)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Redirect to The X Factor (UK series 4) for the time being. If/when they gain some independent notability then the article can be reinstated. And FWIW the nom is quote right about WP:MUSIC#9, which really needs tightening up. I have, however, created a dab linking to their paragraph in the main X Factor article.BLACKKITE 15:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Musical duo, at the moment only notable for appearing in The X Factor (UK series 4). I've redirected the page twice but it's been recreated both times. Fails WP:MUSIC (apart from criteria 9, which I dispute and always have). I don't believe the article should be created until they release an album, single, or get a job in television presenting. anemone│projectors 00:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. fails WP:MUSIC. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Per nominator. Happy Holidays!! Malinaccier (talk) 01:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Were there no section about them at The X Factor (UK series 4) I would weakly support the article as there is current interest in them. However, there is, and no additional page seems necessary at the moment. Ros0709 (talk) 09:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Apparently, Disney have expressed interest in signing them to promote the DVD release of High School Musical 2.[1] This, along with their appearance on The X Factor, is notable enough to have an article. --TheStephenator (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- comment the above-cited rumor is factored from the Daily Star. Is that really considered a reliable source? There is no deadline. If these folks ever genuinely become notable, then they can have their own article. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. About 15 people have edited this page in its 4 day history, which suggests people are interested. Okay its creation may have been premature but it is pointless deleting it at this stage when ongoing developments are very likely over the next few weeks. Why has the nominator visited such a page 3 times in 4 days just to remove it? - concentrate on more positive things. --MalcolmGould 18:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep They've literally just finished there x-factor journey and are now a proper group who people are interested in. People are going to want to keep updated on their progress!!! if you delete these guys then you mileswell delete rhydian, and all the other xfactor finalists, at the end of the day they came 3rd so lets support them and keep their band alive!! btw i really want to be kept updated i think there great! :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.28.224.249 (talk) 22:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Most people in the UK know who they are and many are interested in their career. And they do meet criteria #9, with which I agree. Lampadinha (talk) 01:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Criteria 9 is pointless, as if someone comes 12th (or even 2nd) in a competition and nothing else ever happens with them, then you'll have an article that says "So and so came 12th in such and such" and nothing else. In fact we'd end up with thousands of pointless articles. All their details can be put in the article about the competition. Similar AFDs have resulted in deletion, merging or redirecting, dispite criteria 9. I've brought it up on the talk page of WP:MUSIC before but nothing happened, perhaps it can be reviewed after this AFD. anemone
│projectors 15:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Criteria 9 is pointless, as if someone comes 12th (or even 2nd) in a competition and nothing else ever happens with them, then you'll have an article that says "So and so came 12th in such and such" and nothing else. In fact we'd end up with thousands of pointless articles. All their details can be put in the article about the competition. Similar AFDs have resulted in deletion, merging or redirecting, dispite criteria 9. I've brought it up on the talk page of WP:MUSIC before but nothing happened, perhaps it can be reviewed after this AFD. anemone
- Delete - in case my comment above wasn't clear. They might be notable someday, in which case you can do an article about them; there is no deadline to meet here. (And most people in the UK don't watch X Factor, Lampadinha, just as most Americans don't watch American Idol.)--Orange Mike | Talk 02:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- You don't need to watch the X Factor to know who they are. I still think most people do know who they are, even if they don't watch the show (and yes, I live in the UK). However, I understand why you and others think the article should be deleted - we just have different criteria when it comes to relevance. I think that if a lot of people know it and a lot of people are insterested in it, it has a place on Wikipedia. That's just the way I see the project. But I understand some (most?) users have a stricter view. Lampadinha (talk) 02:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep They have been signed to release a single in the new year, and just last week were on a show pulling 12.1 million audience. To delete it now would be a be hasty. Ianbittiner (talk) 02:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep
- Keep for now (and copyedit!). They are definitely notable by virtue of coming third in what is, in the UK, a huge show. If a year down the line they've done nothing more of note then maybe we can reconsider redirecting to the appropriate X Factor article. Matt 02:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.197.231 (talk)
- Keep They were truly amazing and they do public auditions they recently done a few in Swansea.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.170.200 (talk)
- Keep Same Difference are a signed group in their own right. They are releasing a single, and have all but confirmed a Disney affiliation in the near future. After the Daily Mirror's poll on "Who Will win the X Factor" came off with Same Difference as the public favourites, I would think that proved that the UK and even further afield, love Same Difference, and I have been waiting for a wiki age for a few weeks now! Let's keep their page, so we have somewhere to show off their future number one singles!
- Keep per above. Master of Puppets Care to share? 05:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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