Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scouting in Greater Manchester North

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus (defaults to keep). A potential rename is an editorial decision. --BigDT 04:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scouting in Greater Manchester North

Article merely consists of internal and external links. Wikipedia is not a collection of links. Croxley 21:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Convert to list It already is a list, really just needs a name change. Mr.Z-mantalk 22:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:ORG as not independently notable local division of notable national organization. --Metropolitan90 00:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A consensus appears to have developed that the level below national in Scouting is an appropriate level for a WP article. Below that at District level or Troop/Group level is not appropriate. The level below national in the UK is the Scout County and this is what this article is about. We are slowly developing these articles and this one needs development. I will work on this one. --Bduke 22:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure that such a consensus exists. I have seen various articles on individual troops come up for AfD and they have always been deleted, but I can't recall previous discussions about sub-national scouting groups. At any rate, it's not clear to me that Scouting in Greater Manchester North is different from Scouting in other parts of England other than the fact that it is in a different ___location. --Metropolitan90 01:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I was thinking of Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/RulesStandards#Local articles (Councils and smaller entities) which is the consensus of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting and it has not been challenged. Sure, that is about the US and US States are larger than UK Scout Counties, but it is intended to apply more widely. There is no larger entity than the County other than national in the UK. Some of the County Scout articles have grown into good valid articles. This one of course has not but in time is could well do. I agree about troops and I would also not support an article about a Scout District, but the Scout County is much larger than these. I still plan to work on it but have been tied up. --Bduke 01:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 10:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. Jcuk 22:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I am from the Greater Manchester North area, and lucky/unlucky enough to have gone to one of these organisations as a youth. However, Mr.Z-man raises an important point, that the article is in bad shape, and is currently acting as an internal and external link repository! Images of the neckerchief designs, former projects, division (pack?) badge motifs, history, numbers, etc etc really ought to be included, otherwise I see strong grounds to merge the North, East and West Greater Manchester Scouting pages into one article. I will currently abstain, with a view to adding a keep/delete comment depending upon any changes made. Jhamez84 00:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.