Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sharkfin and prawn dumpling in superior soup

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The result was keep based on Cunard's very thorough source analysis. – Joe (talk) 23:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sharkfin and prawn dumpling in superior soup

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Article on non-notable dumpling dish, there are hundred types of dim sum dumpling fillings and this is not a specialty of a region nor a famous dish of any restaurant. Content appears to be taken out of a cook book Sgnpkd (talk) 05:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename to shark fin dumpling (魚翅餃). An alternative name is shark's fin dumpling, but I recommend shark fin dumpling to match the title of shark fin soup.
The Chinese Wikipedia has an article about the shark fin dumpling at zh:魚翅餃.
This paragraph from Sharkfin and prawn dumpling in superior soup convinced me that this article is about shark fin dumpling:
In the past, shark's fin and prawn dumpling has traditionally been a luxury dim sum, with only a select number of dim sum establishments offering the dish. These restaurants used expensive materials to make the filling like plenty of shark’s fin, chicken shreds, Shiitake mushrooms, prawn, pork, etc. The cooking method, time-consuming in nature, requires the soup to be filled into the dumpling then steamed in a bamboo steamer. As there is only one formal cooking method, fewer chiefs know how to make the dish in accordance with the traditional approach.
The shark fin dumpling is a notable dim sum dish.

Highlights from English-language sources

Los Angeles magazine calls the shark fin dumpling a "high-end dim sum relic". The American Institute of Wine & Food says the shark fin dumpling "is offered in the better dim sum houses". Gourmet says the shark fin dumpling is a "large dumpling, which resembles a closed flower, opens up with a touch of a fork, spilling a fragrantly gingery ground pork, shrimp, and shark's fin mixture into the bland chicken broth". Chronicle Books says "These dumplings are shaped with a ridge on top that looks like a shark's fin, but do not actually contain shark meat."

Sources

Here are the sources I found about the subject:
1. Lin, Eddie (2014-07-28). "One Soup Dumpling to Rule Them All at China Red". Los Angeles. Archived from the original on 2018-06-18. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  This is a restaurant review. The article notes:
  This Deluxe Soup Dumpling ($3.98) at China Red is sometimes known as “Shark Fin & Prawn Dumpling in Superior Soup” at restaurants in China where shark fin is legal. If you haven’t been living under a foodie rock for the past couple of years, you’ll know that shark fin is illegal to sell in California. So, some Chinese seafood houses like China Red have reinvented this high-end dim sum relic to conform to current legal standards and tastes. Thus, the deluxe soup dumpling was created.
2. "Toh Yuen". FriedChillies.com. 2003-07-18. Archived from the original on 2018-06-18. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  This is a restaurant review. The article notes:
  Then we tried Shark's Fin Dumpling in Superior Soup. The dumpling is about twice the size of a normal dumpling and has shark's fin, tenggiri, prawns, mushrooms and scallop as part of its ingredients. This is then dipped into their superior soup. It's a bit savoury and has bits of mushroom and shark's fin. Delicious fellas. They managed to get the dumpling ingredient to compliment the soup perfectly. Something I'd recommend.
  Here is more information about FriedChillies.com:
  6. Honey Ahmad: Foodie (Malaysia)
  
  Malaysia might be filled with food fanatics, but the co-founder of food website friedchillies.com is even more 'makan' ('eat') obsessed than most. With Adly Rizal, her lively site champions Malaysian food with blogs, Twitter posts, TV episodes, recipes and reviews of restaurants around the country, from hawker stalls to haute cuisine. With more than 1.5 million hits a month, the highly interactive site is on its way to achieving its mission -- getting Malaysian food worldwide recognition.
3. Horwitt, Joan (1986-04-03). "Virginia Dining". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on 2018-06-18. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  This is a restaurant review. The article notes:
  Both the quality and variety of dim sum are impressive. Try the shark's fin dumpling, a whole shrimp wrapped in an almost transparent dough, crimped at the top to suggest the triangular shape of a shark's fin.
4. 杜蘊潔 (2013-10-11). "蟹黃燒賣沒蟹黃　魚翅餃也不放魚翅". TVBS. Archived from the original on 2018-06-18. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The article notes:
  
  還有魚翅餃裡頭也沒放過魚翅，其實是餃子的皺褶就像鯊魚背鰭，才會被稱做魚翅餃，但依照食品衛生法，業者不應該讓消費者產生誤解，不然可能會吃上4到20萬元的罰單。
5. Li, Kit Shan (2004). Dim Sum: A Guide. San Francisco: Chronicle Books. p. 37. ISBN 1452132755. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The book notes:
  
  魚翅餃
  [yü chee gow] "Shark Fin" Dumpling
  wrapping: plain flour and egg dough
  filling: pork, dried shrimp, bamboo shoots, Chinese dried mushrooms
  These dumplings are shaped with a ridge on top that looks like a shark's fin, but do not actually contain shark meat.
6. Wine, Food & the Arts, Volume I. American Institute of Wine & Food. 2004. p. 76. ISBN 1891267450. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The book notes:
  
  Shark's fin may also be stuffed into a duck and steamed or scrambled in eggs; and beautifully pleated shark's-fin dumpling is offered in the better dim sum houses.
7. Gourmet, Volume 52, Issues 1-6. Gourmet. 1992. p. 107. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The article notes:
  
  Look for the cart carrying shark's fin dumpling in soup. This large dumpling, which resembles a closed flower, opens up with a touch of a fork, spilling a fragrantly gingery ground pork, shrimp, and shark's fin mixture into the bland chicken broth.
8. 搭地鐵吃香港美食. 宏碩文化事業股份有限公司. 2014. p. 15. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The book notes:
  
  魚翅餃
  
  早期茶樓為了迎合富貴人士而推出的奢華點心，蝦肉和豬肉的混和外還加了點魚翅。不過現在一經多用粉絲代替，不放真正的魚翅了。
9. 司徒寶潔 (2007). 至愛點心360. zh:萬里機構. p. 61. ISBN 962143601X. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The book has a section about 魚翅餃 on page 61.
10. 施莉雅 (2014). 香港美食大全. zh:萬里機構. p. 274. ISBN 9621454948. Retrieved 2018-06-18.
  The book has a section about 魚翅餃 on page 274.
Cunard (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A Google on "魚翅餃" seems to provide an entirely different type of jiao. Sgnpkd (talk) 09:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted a link to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hong Kong to ask about whether and how this Wikipedia article is related to shark fin dumpling (魚翅餃). Cunard (talk) 08:18, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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