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The result was delete. Community consensus has not accepted the reliability or independence of the sources provided. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
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WP:NOTABILITY; no claims that meet WP:NMUSIC guidelines, no relevant gnews hits, checking the first few pages of ghits, there are none conferring notability (the results are a mixture of self-published material by the subject, database listings, and other individuals of same name (or at least non-music-related invocation of people of that name.) Nat Gertler (talk) 04:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, fails WP:V and WP:MUSIC. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- Do Not Delete', all references are validated, validated name on harddiscs of all discography, sidney is a well respected engineer in Miami. he works out of multiplule studios and directly works with jason derulo... this wiki page is relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.214.185 (talk) 21:32, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- All but two references are credits databases, which do not indicate notability. Of the other two refs, one is a Wikipedia article (i.e., an inappropriate ref), and one is a store blog interview. --Nat Gertler (talk) 05:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- the interview is not a store blog, its a well known music conference / production website, of the database listings, allmusic & albumcredits are of the upmost highly noted credit sites on the internet. i will take off the wikipedia reference now... how many people must i get to vote "do not delete" until the page is validated, i know many others who would agree that this article is wiki worthy.
- There is no set "vote count"; you should read the page on WP:CONSENSUS to understand how decisions are reached on Wikipedia. You should not be reaching out to people who you think will support your opinion -- see WP:CANVAS to understand those guidelines. And the question is not one of the quality of the databases, but that listing in a database - particularly a good (i.e., comprehensive) one - does not connote notability. They can be handy for showing that someone did something specific, but not that that makes him particularly worth of attention. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- I stand corrected on "store blog"; I misread the site's description of "production shopping experience" as being where producers do shopping, rather than where one shops for producers. However, a single interview, particularly on a site where they are selecting interviewees from among the site's members, is not a sufficient indication of notability. Again, review WP:NMUSIC for guidelines of what denotes notability in musicians. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- added more references — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.214.185 (talk) 22:58, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
added another referance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.98.112.38 (talk) 01:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 07:35, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Added more references!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.89.44 (talk) 00:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 17:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - coverage in reliable sources. -- watch the video, the producers talk about Sidney as their engineer.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.89.44 (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - That is not a reliable source. - Whpq (talk) 19:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Notability for the Fliptones does not confer notability to members of the Fliptones; notability is not inherited. --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:27, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
how is the video, where producers talk about Sidney as their engineer, not a reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.107.204.24 (talk)
- Reply - What is needed are independent sources that would attest to notability. That would be articles in newspapers and magazines. -- Whpq (talk) 13:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Joseph Fox 01:17, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Delete - Non notable engineer. Delete per WP:V and WP:MUSIC. Cyrus Andiron 14:44, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Do Not Delete - Notable engineer. references justify engineering and production on major label releases. Do not delete per WP:V and WP:MUSIC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.203.122 (talk) 12:19, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - notability hasn't been demonstrated per WP:MUSIC or WP:GNG. Example - References to the engineer as having worked with a non-notable group, The Renegades, do nothing to increase the notability of the engineer. They merely demonstrate that he is gainfully employed, not that he is notable when compared to other professionals and Wikipedia's notability standards. Colonel Tom 00:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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