Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Signal Rules of the Chessie System
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. If any sysop elsewhere wants this for their proejct, just let me know, and I'll gladly put it somewhere for a transwiki. Courcelles 00:31, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Not Notable and unsourced. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Unsourced, and not encyclopedic. This is material that appears in training manuals for new railroaders, and is not appropriate for an encyclopedia.oknazevad (talk) 13:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This seems to be contrary to WP:NOT as a listing of signals used internally by a private company, and less encyclopedic than, say highway signs, or other signals used by the general public. If the present signal system of this railroad is encyclopedic without satisfying the GNG via significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources, then every internal system of rules or signals, basically every employee handbook of every major company and organization would be eligible for an article. Certainly the rulebook of every railroad in history as it related to signalling would be equally eligible for an article (Such as historic Illinois Central: Five long whistle sounds, followed by ten short whistle sounds: Flagman for train number 10 may return from the North. Etc, on and on.). That said, it is a very nice looking article. Edison (talk) 21:01, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Ambivalent, but think through transwiki options before deletion - needs sourcing, obviously. It might be encyclopedic in the sense that it would be eligible for an Encyclopedia of Rail? In which case it would have a place in Wikipedia. Not everything here has to be suitable for Britannica! If not suitable for here, would there be a home for it in Wikibooks, which does accept manual-like material? TheGrappler (talk) 18:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Not any encyclopedia of rail I've seen; this is purely instruction manual material. I actually have some CSX signal manuals, and this looks exactly like them. That itself may be a problem; there may be copyright issues, though it's mostly basic information and simple diagrams that may not meet the threshold for copyright eligibility. Regardless, this isn't material for or from an encyclopedia. The fact that there's no other articles with carrier-specific signal rules tells me that there's agreement on that.oknazevad (talk) 19:16, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm happy to take your word for it. I can't see how this would be a copyvio (I think you're right re threshold). I suspect this belongs as a transwiki to Wikibooks, as instruction-manual material? TheGrappler (talk) 22:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Not any encyclopedia of rail I've seen; this is purely instruction manual material. I actually have some CSX signal manuals, and this looks exactly like them. That itself may be a problem; there may be copyright issues, though it's mostly basic information and simple diagrams that may not meet the threshold for copyright eligibility. Regardless, this isn't material for or from an encyclopedia. The fact that there's no other articles with carrier-specific signal rules tells me that there's agreement on that.oknazevad (talk) 19:16, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.