- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sourced only to press releases and "fastest growing companies" type lists. ~ A412 talk! 18:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and New Jersey. ~ A412 talk! 18:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The subject has lots of media coverage — 102.91.93.46 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 06:24, 25 December 2024 (UTC) (UTC).
- Keep: The SmartSites article meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations as it is a recognized and award-winning digital marketing agency with significant industry impact. The company has received multiple accolades, including rankings on the Inc. 5000 list for several consecutive years and recognition by Clutch.co as a leading agency in web design and digital marketing. These achievements have been covered by independent, reliable sources, demonstrating the company's influence and relevance in the digital marketing space.
- Additionally, SmartSites has been featured in reputable publications such as Forbes, Entrepreneur, and Inc. magazines, which provide independent coverage beyond trivial mentions. This establishes the company’s notability under Wikipedia's general notability guidelines (GNG). The article provides verifiable, well-sourced information, contributing to the encyclopedia's goal of documenting notable organizations.
- Deletion would remove a valuable resource for users seeking information on a player in the digital marketing industry. Instead, any concerns about content quality or neutrality can be addressed through constructive edits.
Hussainxyz (talk) 18:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Hussainxyz (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.
- Delete, perhaps speedily as unambiguous WP:ADMASQ. This subject fails WP:NCORP. Virtually every source is a press release, and the few that aren't are WP:ORGTRIV. Being on the Inc. 5000 does not qualify a company as notable. Furthermore, I searched and there is no evidence for the page creator's assertion (or should I say ChatGPT's hallucination? GPTZero gives a 100% probability that the creator's !vote is WP:AIGENERATED) that there is independent coverage in Forbes or Entrepreneur. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. There is a fundamental disagreement over the quality of the sources and whether they are SIGCOV or just press releases so a source review would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: They are technically on Forbes Advisor, Inc., and Entrepreneur, but Forbes Advisor is not reliable per WP:RSP, and the Inc. and Entrepreneur do not contain significant coverage. Influencer Marketing Hub and DesignRush don't seem like reliable sources. Everything else is press releases and/or routine coverage. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's a directory page, not actual coverage in Entrepreneur magazine. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep: The article on SmartSites satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations, supported by significant independent coverage in reputable sources like Forbes, Inc., and Entrepreneur. These sources document the company's achievements, including its recognition on the Inc. 5000 list of fastest-growing private companies in America.
- The content is backed by reliable references and is written in a neutral tone, providing encyclopedic value rather than promotional content. It offers important information about the company's role in the digital marketing industry, which is relevant to readers seeking insights into notable businesses in this field.
- I suggest keeping the article and addressing any specific concerns regarding formatting or sourcing to ensure compliance with Wikipedia standards. Hussainxyz (talk) 02:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- You should only make a single "Keep/delete" comment. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, please respond to the inquiry on your talk page. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Sourcing I find is strictly for PR items, as are most of what we have now for sourcing. Forbes Advisor sites aren't RS, a company profile isn't helpful... We have nothing for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 02:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Noting that User:102.91.105.184 (wrongly listed below as User:92.21.93.46) struck this vote with no apparent justification, which I reverted. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The article shouldn’t be considered for deletion, It only needs additional content. — 92.21.93.46 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 13:59, 1 January 2025 (UTC) (UTC).
- Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 11:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. The Inc profile is insignificant coverage. The consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 337#RFC Forbes Advisor is that the Forbes Advisor article is unreliable. The other sources in the article are press releases. I did not find significant coverage in reliable sources about the company in my searches for sources. SmartSites does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. Cunard (talk) 02:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: The creator, Hussainxyz (talk · contribs), was blocked for sockpuppetry at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hussainxyz. Cunard (talk) 02:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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