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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 02:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Soramimi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
This article has gone a year without any credible sources and isn't very encyclopediac anyway. Looks like Japanese pop-culture-cruft. RobertM525 (talk) 03:49, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Someone had too much time on their hands. Indeed, not encyclopedic, no sources, just OR and trivia. Drmies (talk) 05:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Transwiki to wiktionary a cut down version of the page (defintion plus some examples) 76.66.195.63 (talk) 07:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This is famous from a popular feature started in 1992 on this TV variety program. Choose any from this page and watch. But if you cannot speak Japanese, it's difficult to understand the funniness of it. The word 'Soramimi' is a noun form of hear things. Oda Mari (talk) 18:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- KEEP!!! A form of a mondegreen where a phrase in another language is intrepreted as words in ones own language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boxstaa (talk • contribs) 22:56, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 04:54, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as notability has not been established. Boston (talk) 05:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete English Wikipedia, people. Notability outside of Japanese culture is not established, period. JuJube (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: notability is not established. JamesBurns (talk) 05:05, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Transwiki to Wiktionary. Notability doesn't have to be established outside of a particular area. If something is notable, even locally notable, then it is notable. That said, this is likely more appropriate for Wiktionary unless more sources can be found. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Transfer to Wiktionary and delete from Wikipedia. No need for an encyclopedia article. As Oda Mari noted, it's just the Japanese term for "hearing things" as in "I must be hearing things." A comedian uses it as the title of a segment of a television show. Some English speakers use the term as a borrowing from the television show. That doesn't merit an encyclopedia article. The examples belong in a blog. Fg2 (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep precisely because this is the English wikipedia, and coverage of other cultures is not just suitable but necessary. This is apparently a genre of joke, and considered a notable genre there, and therefore worth an article. As for examples, I think the number is modest, just bout right to make the point--about half were clear enough for even a non Japanese-speaker american like me to smile. This is the sort of subject which cannot be clearly described without some examples. DGG (talk) 05:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - sources may be difficult to deal with as they are likely to be in Japanese. But being popular enough to generate a recurring segment in a comedy show is evidence that the subject is likely notable and kept per WP:BIAS. -- Whpq (talk) 18:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a very popular mode of humor in Japanese culture. Someone who can access Japanese academic articles should check to see if there are actually articles on this comedy style. Has potential for expansion with regard to the origin of the practice and comparing it to other forms of humor and to similar practices in other cultures. --Polaron | Talk 23:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep, but rename Soramimi hour and copyedit like Headlines (The Tonight Show). Or merge into Tamori Club. Oda Mari (talk) 04:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Although I prefer deletion, if it is kept, it should be renamed as Oda Mari proposed. Better than keeping as a standalone article, even with the suggested new title, is to merge it as Oda Mari also proposed. Fg2 (talk) 05:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Because deletionism is stupid and counterproductive. --Criffer —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
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