Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soundsystem Massive

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 11:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a notability prod on this article, because I see nothing in the article that indicates this group has had any notable impact on the music industry. The notability prod was removed (twice), so I have now submitted an afd. This group is nonnotable, and the article borders on patent nonsense. Charles 03:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Completely Keep - They are the best electronic band in the bay area. they represent a side not often seen by the public. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.6.149.3 (talk • contribs) 25 May 2006.

Comment Yes, I thought so too.--Paco650 04:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete - non-notable bio/nonsense. Wickethewok 03:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - From my talk page: "...They represent and have worked with a majority of the San Francisco Bay Area's local hip-hop scene (mostly as producers), and have toured in both the US and in England during their three year tenure. I think that's notable enough to deserve a wikipedia entry.""--Paco650 03:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. "Soundsystem Massive will probably eventually finish a real album." Kind of says it all. Fan1967 03:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Yes, I thought so too.--Charles 03:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you look at the page again, you will see that Paco650 has now changed the "will probably eventually finish a real album" line to sound less ambiguous, apparently hoping that will save the article. --Charles 04:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Indeed I did. After a quick phone call consisting of "Will you ever finish Scud Messiah?" and "Yeah we will. We're working on it right now. Bye", it has been determined they will finish at least that album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paco650 (talk • contribs) 25 May 2006.

Comment Great, glad to hear it. When they do, and it gets released, and people actually buy it, feel free to come back and create an article about them. Fan1967 04:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Clearly NN and they admit as much in the article. Devotchka 04:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Abstain but if it is decided that these dudes are notable enough to keep, it needs a serious de-povving first. THE KING 04:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. looks like nonsense here mellery 04:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom & Fan1967 --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 04:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, nn. --Terence Ong 04:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as seriously NN, and the next thing to spurious at that. For one thing, that alleged "Soundsystem Massive in the UK" link counts in so far as the long news page to which it connects has both the words "Soundsystem" and "Massive" on it, albeit in different places; nice try there. A Google search turns up the lead hit being a Myspace page (with the headline "I have a huge cock and you don't") and there are all of three relevant hits. RGTraynor 05:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - If you want more interesting reading, here's the LiveJournals for the principals, who seems to be 19 year old college students. (links deleted) Somehow I doubt they've spent the last three years touring the UK or being producers in the hip-hop scene. RGTraynor 05:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Please do not post semi-private journals here. It hardly seems appropriate.--Paco650 01:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, plus my LexisNexis search of "Soundsystem Massive" in Major Newspapers for the past 2 years yielded zero results. Zepheus 05:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- Wikipedia is full of people who can't take a joke. It disturbs me to think that you people are responsible for this site. p.s., We've never toured the UK. We're just two kids making music and helping others produce theirs. Just thought I'd clear that up. :'( --Paco650 06:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - No, actually, Wikipedia's full of people who are on the serious business of creating and maintaining an encyclopedia. One wonders what your reaction would be if your employer bounced your checks and then claimed you couldn't "take a joke," or if your professors flunked you out and then claimed you couldn't "take a joke." Possibly you wouldn't respond with cheerful laughter, but then few people do when the joke's on them. RGTraynor 06:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I wasn't talking about my professors or my employer. I was talking about uptight wiki-editors and an "encyclopedia" that is both a running joke and an unacceptable source of information at my college's newspaper and with the student body in general.--Paco650 01:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• In good part because of people such as yourself.... Wickethewok 01:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Paco650, please do not trash the article just because you don't like the way the AfD discussion is going. Paddles 12:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete Not sure about the notability question, but the article is horribly POV, horribly unencyclopedic, and most likely vanity. Notability is difficult in the underground music scene, if there are a couple of articles in the street press or something then I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on condition that the article has a major rewrite. Otherwise, delete without prejudice, the article can be written anew in a suitable style once notability is established. Paddles 12:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Deleteper nom. - Nick C 13:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Non-notable Avi 15:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. -- FRCP11 15:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and then degauss the disk sectors that previously stored this garbage. it's the only way to be sure. -- GWO
• Delete for non-notability, though the section titled "Definitely Notable" was a nice touch. I eagerly await the album from Sound System Definitely Notable. -- Docether 19:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heehee - Awesome... Wickethewok 19:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • IAWTC --Paco650 01:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete non-notable vanity page Bwithh 05:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Have a look at this. --Conti|✉ 02:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Very interesting. Thanks for the link, Conti. ---Charles 06:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - And people wonder why its hard to believe that articles such as this are created in "good faith"... Wickethewok 02:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - They are legitimate musicians with quite a bit of notability within their scene. The article's a bit ridiculous, so keep on the condition that someone besides the members of Soundsystem Massive rewrites it.--172.191.118.191 23:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - You mean the same bunch that says on Paco's own talk page "It was all a ruse"? Why are you still bothering? RGTraynor

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.