Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spencer Howe

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Withdrawn. He now meets #2 of WP:NSKATE. I still can't find in-depth coverage for the GNG, but it has only been a few days and in any case, it doesn't seem correct to continue this discussion when most of the delete !votes were from before his highest medal placement. (non-admin closure) — Insertcleverphrasehere^{(or here)_{(or here)^{(or here)}}} 18:14, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spencer Howe

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No significant coverage to meet the WP:GNG and no evidence that he meets WP:NSPORTS in that he didn't win his national championships. — Insertcleverphrasehere^{(or here)_{(or here)^{(or here)}}} 03:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:57, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Howe has been selected for the 2022 Four Continents, so he has a possibility to meet criteria #2 at WP:NSKATE. Arguably, he also meets #4 (competing at a senior Grand Prix event) because he competed at the 2020 Skate America. Even though it was majorly affected by COVID, the ISU still considers it a GP. So, I think there's no point in deleting this article right away, although it may have been a mistake to publish it before Howe inarguably met the criteria. Hergilei (talk) 18:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hergilei Draftifying the article might be a solution in the interim. The fact remains that he doesn't meet the GNG criteria, and unless new sources come about, should not have an article. There just isn't any source that cover the guy except to say "he exists and he competed at these few places", of these, none has significant coverage. Not enough is available to write an encyclopedia article on a person, only a sports statistics page. There are plenty of those elsewhere. — Insertcleverphrasehere^{(or here)_{(or here)^{(or here)}}} 23:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:NSPORTS Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 06:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Draftify~~ Changed because of lack of reliable, secondary sources per WP:GNG it probably shouldn't be in article space. But it's likely WP:TOOSOON per both Hergilei and Insertcleverphrasehere's comments, so draft space seems appropriate until the next competitions have occurred. Chumpih ^t 20:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep given the update via User:Hergilei seems OK to keep now. Chumpih ^t 18:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Update Howe has won silver at the 2022 Four Continents Figure Skating Championships. He now clearly meets the criteria for inclusion. Hergilei (talk) 18:10, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not enough here for now to satisfy WP:GNG MaskedSinger (talk) 14:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- He more than fulfills #2 at WP:NSPORTS, figure skating section: Have competed in the free skate at the following ISU Championships: World Junior Figure Skating Championships, European Figure Skating Championships, Four Continents Figure Skating Championships". It would be highly unusual to delete a medalist at one of these events. I can't think of any medalist who's been deemed not notable enough. Hergilei (talk) 15:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.