Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strength to Stand Conferences

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. the contents of the page has been userfied to User:Holyroger/sandbox J04n(talk page) 15:53, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strength to Stand Conferences

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Non-notable Christian organization: the conferences are run by the Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association, who also aren't notable. I can't even find any reliable sources for the head of that organisation, Scott Dawson. I can find lots on Google (lots of social media presence, for instance), but nothing that's reliable. I can't find any news articles, for instance. The sources used aren't reliable either. The article just fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:48, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I working very hard to hard to ensure this article is verifiable as the subject matter is pretty great. For years now thousands of people are attending these conferences and some of the biggest names in Christian music. There are many other conferences similar to this that follow the same format. I hope you all can instead of deleting, give some imput to improve formatting. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holyroger (talk • contribs) 17:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If the article fails to be sourced, then the only appropriate action we can do is to delete it. In terms of formatting, it looks fine. But without sourcing, we have to delete it. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the discussion instead of instant deletion. I know that the material is worthy of wikipedia as these annual conferences/concerts are growing in the south, but I do hope to have everything right and the sources correct. Instead of termination, a possible movement from here to the sandbox or my userspace would be highly appreciated. Honestly, after months of editing I hope that I can finally have this approved. I am very much open to suggestions on better sources. Thanks Tom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holyroger (talk • contribs) 20:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if it gets deleted, I hope the closer would userfy it. The deletion debate takes a week, and people will hopefully have a good faith attempt to find sources. —Tom Morris (talk) 20:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, moreover this is continuing to become edited, as there are more sources that will be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holyroger (talk • contribs) 22:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- This appears to be a long series of conferneces, with a significant attendence, but we neither have articles on Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association nor on Scott Dawson. If we did this might be notable. If you belive that it is notable but the articel is too incomplete to be judged yet, perhaps it should be userified to the main editor's Sandbox. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Peter, yes this is a notable conference due history and the number of people who attend annually and is growing in the south. It is true that it is created by Scott Dawson, however I believe that creating THIS Strength to Stand page first would be ideal as most people are familiar with it. Once this page is approved, a page concerning Scott Dawson would seem more reasonable since this is one of the biggest conferences he has orchestrated. And yes If there was no possibility of this page staying here, userfying it would be a great alternative as I continue to approve it. I would hope that this page could stand based on the conference's history and growth, and then later a page about Scott Dawson could be created. Thanks for the advice.Holyroger (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just updated the Scott Dawson section with more info about another annual conference he does, "stadium fest" which sees over 20,000 in attendance. Honestly the Stadium Fest conference could have its own page, so I didn't include much history on it since this particular article is primarily about the strength to stand conference.Holyroger (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far as sources go, would any of you advise incorporating more sources on other notable Scott Dawson events in THIS article, or creating separate articles for each event? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holyroger (talk • contribs) 14:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HI users, I would like to point out this wikipedia page as an example : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Dogwood_Festival Like that page, my main goal for this article is to write about the festival/ conference itself rather that promote its creators. The Atlanta Dogwood Festival doesn't give much information about the founders but more so, just about its event. I was hoping to go that route for now.Holyroger (talk) 17:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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