Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Submachin gun facts

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 18:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Submachin gun facts

Also included: International assault rifles

Lists of guns, of a sort, with short commentaries on a few representative elements, created by the same account at roughly the same time, who also removed a PROD from both. Both articles are indiscriminate collections of arbitrary stats, not encyclopedic articles. Wikipedia is much better served by the articles on individual weapons, and the existant list articles list of submachine guns and list of assault rifles but I don't see how those would be a useful redirect target for these. gnfnrf (talk) 04:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Information is covered in respective weapon's article (technical specifications) and another are pure trivia or original research. Zero Kitsune (talk) 10:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OR and WP:RS. This information is already covered better in the various articles about submachine guns. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 13:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Random list of facts about a few SMGs fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. VG ☎ 15:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The same can be said about the International assault rifles article (what makes them international to begin with?) VG ☎ 16:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- VG ☎ 15:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both articles — riddled with problems that I can't see being rectified, and I don't think that the formats of these articles can at all be made compatible with our policies. Nyttend (talk) 18:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. Enumerating random facts is not an appropriate way to organize an article. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Kolkata facts for a similar case - however, unlike that article (which was sensibly merged to Kolkata), these don't contain any sourced information which can be merged. Zetawoof_(ζ) 00:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 22:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.