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The result was no consensus‎. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sven Pichal

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This person is convicted of accused of and on trial for (revolting) charges but does not appear to be independently notable (I can't find any WP:GNG-qualifying coverage prior to his arrest) from what he's been charged with. Per WP:CRIMINAL and WP:BLP1E, we shouldn't have a biography of this individual, at least not until the trial has concluded with a verdict. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I agree with the nominator that he does not pass NCRIMINAL, but looking at the sourcing on the nl.wiki page nl:Sven Pichal, I do think he passes NBASIC as a TV personality, with articles about him in major publications. Haven't searched too much though, but he is not BLP1E. Also, from what I can tell he was convicted in December 2024. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, missed that in the sources. Can you share the coverage you saw that you think clears the WP:SIGCOV bar separate from the crime? Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: PARAKANYAA, thanks for referring to the NL page. The subject clearly passes GNG and WP:CRIMINAL. Cameremote (talk) I came from a remote place 20:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you explain how he meets the CRIMINAL requirements? (The victim of the crime is a renowned national or international figure, including, but not limited to, politicians or celebrities; or [t]he motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. I don't think either applies. The question is whether there are enough sources outside the crime to warrant a GNG pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Television. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:20, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:14, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I'm having to rely on Google translate, but I don't find sources about him as a TV personality prior to being arrested for crimes. And the articles about the crimes do not go into much detail about him. That there is an article in NL wiki is not a reason to have an article in EN wiki - each separate language wiki has its own policies for inclusion, and that is how it should be. Lamona (talk) 01:52, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I find evidence that he was a well-known radio presenter in Belgium: [1]. Oaktree b, he was definitely an on-air personality, and even had a show that carried his name: Pichal has presented numerous radio programmes for VRT over the last 20 years, including (with Annemie Peeters) the popular Radio 1 show 'Peeters & Pichal' from 2007 to 2012. I don't think we can call this an example of a non-notable person who became notable for a crime they committed. He was evidently nationally known. -- asilvering (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    France's Le Monde also calls him "famous": [2]. Admittedly that too is in an article about the crime. -- asilvering (talk) 02:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Passes WP:GNG and WP:CRIMINAL. Z. Patterson (talk) 03:02, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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