- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. --Celestianpower háblame 16:08, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
non-notable gaming clan Zzzzz 19:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom Zzzzz 19:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. You can call me Al 19:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless verified that this team actually participates in top-level professional gaming competitions such as the World Cyber Games or the Cyberathlete Professional League. FCYTravis 20:57, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep verification requested can be found here
- Do you have a link to the results of that tournament? Not saying I don't believe you, but just a team list is not quite what I'm looking for... at which event did the team participate in? That can all be added to the article to expand it :) FCYTravis 09:13, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- does simply participation make it notable? surely it has to win something? Zzzzz 09:26, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The Kansas City Royals haven't won anything in decades, but they're notable for participation in the MLB. If a clan competes in major professional electronic sports competitions such as the Cyberathlete Professional League, it's got a strong claim to notability, IMO. FCYTravis 09:36, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- looking at that article, it says the league is "open to all registrants".... this implies there is no entry barrier, unlike, say the MLB, where (i assume) you cant just gather your buddies and sign up on a website and say your an MLB team. so imho mere participation is too low a bar, they should have won something. in any case the evidence so far consists of a team list, which as you say by itself is not really sufficient. Zzzzz 09:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Googling on 'team cloud nine cpl' I got a few hits that indicate they're at least slightly notable within the e-sports community, but nothing that would really establish notability here. As others have said, some verifiable wins in some of the big e-sports tournaments added to this article would really make it a keeper, but without it the article looks like just another vanity page for a dime-a-dozen clan. You can call me Al 14:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- looking at that article, it says the league is "open to all registrants".... this implies there is no entry barrier, unlike, say the MLB, where (i assume) you cant just gather your buddies and sign up on a website and say your an MLB team. so imho mere participation is too low a bar, they should have won something. in any case the evidence so far consists of a team list, which as you say by itself is not really sufficient. Zzzzz 09:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The Kansas City Royals haven't won anything in decades, but they're notable for participation in the MLB. If a clan competes in major professional electronic sports competitions such as the Cyberathlete Professional League, it's got a strong claim to notability, IMO. FCYTravis 09:36, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- does simply participation make it notable? surely it has to win something? Zzzzz 09:26, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have a link to the results of that tournament? Not saying I don't believe you, but just a team list is not quite what I'm looking for... at which event did the team participate in? That can all be added to the article to expand it :) FCYTravis 09:13, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.