Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Telelogic Synergy

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The result was delete pending references to substantial, reliable, third-party coverage. Sandstein (talk) 21:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested prod. This article is about a commercial software package that makes no showing of notability per WP:CORP. No independent references are given; the link given is to a "Telelogic Download" page that apparently requires payment and registration to actually view. The article's text is vague and abstract to the point of evasiveness:

Telelogic Synergy is a suite of tools for task-based Change Management and Configuration Management. Synergy provides lifecycle control for a company's digital assets (i.e. source code), enabling the assessment and authorization of change requests, from both internal and external sources, using a customizable change control workflow.

— and as such gives little concrete information as to what this package actually does. Does not appear to be a product with wide consumer interest of a sort that would generate truly independent reviews. The article seems promotional in intent; historical versions were even worse. Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 17:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• It's a combination revision control, software configuration management, change request, and change control system. As our software configuration management article notes, this field is replete both with buzzwords and with companies that like to redefine the buzzwords to their own ends. So yes, it's difficult to pin down what those actually mean. I could tell you from firsthand experience, since I've actually used the product myself, but I couldn't point to a source that you could check what I tell you against, since everything that I've learned is a product either of my own direct use and experimentation or of unrecorded verbal communication with sales representatives. Taking the word of a pseudonymous Wikipedia editor is not how Wikipedia works.

  Telelogic is in the process of being bought by IBM, and there is speculation that this product (as Telelogic's other products) will not exist soon, in favour of Rational ClearCase — something that our article on the company could probably be expanded with. I've never seen any books on the subject of this product, but it has been discussed in articles such as this. I am, however, unable to find much else, that actually talks about the product rather than the company, that isn't a Telelogic-written white paper or a Telelogic press release touting itself and its products, and that thus is an independent source using which a neutral article can be written about the product rather than the company. Uncle G (talk) 14:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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