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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) DARTH PANDAduel 23:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Tell Juhfiyeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
I hate to have to nominate this article, because I think it might be an interesting archeological site, but I cannot find any significant coverage for Tell Juhfiyeh. All I can locate is where it is, and when it dates from, and that comes from a single source. Almost all the other mentions are WP copies, or unreliable, or just listings with the name in them. Fails WP:Notability despite my efforts to clean it up, therefore nominating for Deletion. Afd rather than prod for extra measure of review in case I missed something. Jo7hs2 (talk) 15:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. —Jo7hs2 (talk) 15:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The Arabic Wikipedia's article apparently has 3 sources and it quite a bit more extensive than the English Wikipedia's article. Looking at it through an automatic translator gives the impression that it is indeed notable. If someone who reads Arabic could help us out and source this article, it is probably salvageable. LinguistAtLarge 16:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: I will concur and withdraw if we can get confirmation that "Tell Jehvip" is the same site as "Tell Juhfiyeh", and in that case I would strongly suggest the arabic WP article be translated, because it makes the notability very clear. This article was previously titled "Tell Juhfiyeh (Johfiyeh)", so that suggests there are alternative translations, however "Tell Jehvip" is not what shows in the history, and the arabic article for "Tell Jehvip" suggests it is from the Stone Age, Bronze Age, and Iron Age, whereas the source for "Tell Jehfiyeh" says Iron Age. BUT... The arabic WP article suggests that "Tell Jehvip" is located 7.5mi SW from Irbid, and the english WP article confirms that "Tell Juhfiyeh" is also located 7.5mi SW from Irbid. SO... It looks like these are the same sites, but can we get confirmation of that from an Arabic speaker familiar with Jordan and Jordan's geography? Jo7hs2 (talk) 16:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Just noticed my above post is a grammatical mess. ;) Jo7hs2 (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Running the Arabic spelling of Juhfiyeh listed in the Juhfiyeh article, "جحفية", through Google's Arabic->English translator does indeed produce "Jehvip" as the English spelling. As noted above, confirmation by a human translator would be greatly appeciated. Afterwards I will gladly withdraw the nomination, with the recommendation that the English articles for "Tell Juhfiyeh' and "Juhfiyeh" be linked with the "Jehvip" spelling, and that the English article for "Tell Juhfiyeh" be drastically editing to reflect the information in the Arabic article. I will do what I can in that regard. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd say be WP:BOLD and do it. LinguistAtLarge 22:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Withdraw Nomination: I'm withdrawing my nomination because it is probably a waste of our collective time to get this human translated. Jo7hs2 (talk) 22:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd say be WP:BOLD and do it. LinguistAtLarge 22:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep Per above. Nom withdrawn and no deletes.John Z (talk) 22:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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