Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terminator 4 (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Johnleemk | Talk 19:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This should not be an article until we have a credible source saying that Terminator 4 will exist. Until then all the article can contain is speculation, rumors and fan fiction, like what we have seen so far. Delete Bergsten 21:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (version by Capitalistroadster) with Terminator series. Bergsten 13:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, crystal ball etc. Leithp (talk) 22:09, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, after revision. Leithp (talk) 22:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Way too crystal ball. Wait till an official announcement (and to see whether Arnie gets reelected first). 23skidoo 22:13, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. An official announcement has been made, a script written and a director announced. 227,000 Google Hits see [1] and 17 Google News hits see [2]. There is enough verifiable information for a stub which is what I have rewritten this as. Capitalistroadster 22:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Capitalistroadster. Capitalistroadster's revision is a great improvement over the nominated version -Meegs 22:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although it was very quickly reverted by an anon ip to the disputed version: I have reverted back to CR. -- Francs2000 23:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Capitalistroadster. In The Flesh? 22:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. to much of a problem -209.200.16.16 23:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I have been watching this for a while now and it seem that it changes about once a week lets wait to there is more inforamtion about this movie! -68.49.63.78 23:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. all of the information on here seem to conterdict it slef one said arnild in not coming back while something else said he is going to star in it. so what is it -yourname 00:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete-crystal ball-72.29.74.83 00:18, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as it has its own IMDB entry, hence we know for sure it is going to be released. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 00:52, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as rewritten. Odd to see sockpuppet votes on the delete side of things. ESkog | ^Talk 01:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's sock puppet votes? Or you mean anon IPs? Hmm. Oh I see the reverted bit from Francs above. Maybe they have a thing against Terminator for some reason? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 01:24, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Usually I don't imagine many anonymous editors find their way here, and when four of them vote in rapid succession, my experience is that they are sock/meat puppets. If I am mistaken I do apologize. ESkog | ^Talk 06:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge/Redirect to Terminator series until this film is solidly into production. — RJH 01:21, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Capitalistroadster. Ve3 02:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Capitalistroadsterizations have been worth keeping in the past, and this one utterly fails to change that heuristic. ☺ The article indirectly cites Variety, twice, and the IMDB entry for the movie as sources. Keep. Uncle G 03:05, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Terminator series until the announcement of a release date; then it can be re-established as a stand-alone article. B.Wind 05:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep it has an IMD listing... what more is needed? Sethie 05:53, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep since it is verifiable and has been rewritten. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:59, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Crystal ball. android79 01:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, there's tons of verifiable information about this regardless of whether it's actually going to be made. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, I see no reason why this is any different than other future movie articles. --SwordKirby537 22:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete ive seen information that says aronld is to star in this movie but the artical says hes not even going to be in it i thought this is a fact site not a roumor-217.196.69.199 22:55, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, with revision.--Bkwillwm 23:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete-a load of BS-85.195.123.22 03:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Crystal ball.209.200.36.4 03:14, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete-64.92.167.26 19:25, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Deletelooks like fan fiction204.10.105.220
  • How? Currently it's only about production facts (which may be wrong), but it doesn't even mention a plot. Bergsten 19:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP. This is a heavily rumored and inevitable fourth film. Cameron himself has recently talked about the project. However, if the page stays, it needs to be rewritten to remove any specualtion and provide only facts. The Wookieepedian 08:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not enough sources Empty2005 08:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.