Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Core Media Player
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. — Cirt (talk) 19:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 00:51, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Verification failed. CoreCodec, Inc. does not seem to have any media player for Windows. (It only makes a CorePlayer for mobile devices.) Fleet Command (talk) 10:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Then it's merely past tense - version 4.11 of Core Media Player is still available for download from several shareware sites. And it is described here - http://web.archive.org/web/20091231111944/http://corecodec.com/products/coreplayer I'm not aware of any requirement that software articles only be current. And I'm not aware of any standard of Wikipedia behavior calling for article deletion, when this could have been brought up, and answered quite handily, in article talk. ADMIN - please close this as a premature AfD. --Lexein (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- For a discontinued product for Windows, it leaves a lot to be yearned in the way of Wikipedia:Notability. Fleet Command (talk) 04:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Now we're trolling for deletion reasons? Do a search, add a ref, answer your own question. I'm a little peevishly annoyed at deletionists who do no contributory work. --Lexein (talk) 04:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oops! Sorry! Now that I am having a better look at the source you have given, I see that it also does not mention Windows at all. (It says Windows Mobile but I didn't see the word Mobile in my initial scan and mistakenly assumed good faith in you.) And it still does not say anything about The Core Media Player. The page only mentions CorePlayer. I also found a "The Core Media Player" via Bing and downloaded it but my antivirus cried "malware!" from the top of its lunges. Hmmm... so much for verifiability... Fleet Command (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As the recently departed Kevorkian said, "Must I do everything myself?" Products, and especially this one, have undergone several name changes. Blinkers off, everyone. http://web.archive.org/web/20030612023324/http://corecodec.com/ --Lexein (talk) 01:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As Wikipedia:Verifiability says, yes, you must explain yourself because your sources are not enough to prove most of what is written in the article. And as Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not says "Wikipedia is not an advertisement platform" for your favorite product: Subject of an article must receive significant coverage in reliable secondary sources.
And if I must explain everything, Wikipedia:Wikilawyering says, we do not cause unnecessary inconveniences for each other; so if the article has multiple grounds for deletion that can be addressed in one AfD, then we stick to Wikipedia:Snowball clause. Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions says, we do not deny the antecedents. Fleet Command (talk) 11:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As the recently departed Kevorkian said, "Must I do everything myself?" Products, and especially this one, have undergone several name changes. Blinkers off, everyone. http://web.archive.org/web/20030612023324/http://corecodec.com/ --Lexein (talk) 01:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oops! Sorry! Now that I am having a better look at the source you have given, I see that it also does not mention Windows at all. (It says Windows Mobile but I didn't see the word Mobile in my initial scan and mistakenly assumed good faith in you.) And it still does not say anything about The Core Media Player. The page only mentions CorePlayer. I also found a "The Core Media Player" via Bing and downloaded it but my antivirus cried "malware!" from the top of its lunges. Hmmm... so much for verifiability... Fleet Command (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Now we're trolling for deletion reasons? Do a search, add a ref, answer your own question. I'm a little peevishly annoyed at deletionists who do no contributory work. --Lexein (talk) 04:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- For a discontinued product for Windows, it leaves a lot to be yearned in the way of Wikipedia:Notability. Fleet Command (talk) 04:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Then it's merely past tense - version 4.11 of Core Media Player is still available for download from several shareware sites. And it is described here - http://web.archive.org/web/20091231111944/http://corecodec.com/products/coreplayer I'm not aware of any requirement that software articles only be current. And I'm not aware of any standard of Wikipedia behavior calling for article deletion, when this could have been brought up, and answered quite handily, in article talk. ADMIN - please close this as a premature AfD. --Lexein (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no independent source of notability. Indeed, historically important products can have articles, but only if they are sourced. W Nowicki (talk) 22:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.