Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Vue on Apache

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The result was delete. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 19:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Vue on Apache

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This is an advertisement for a non-notable building, plain and simple. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - appears to be a blatant advertisement. Tone is not NPOV. Information appears designed to sell property, not encyclopedic. No claim to notability, the only link being almost a footnote. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Completely promotional and no evidence of notability. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree that the current article is more or less pure promotion. The building, however, appears to have some notability (or at least notoriety) for its relative luxury[1] and its party lifestyle. From the Arizona Republic, a couple of weeks after the building opened in 2009:

The ritzy resort-style residence was the site of 85 alcohol-related arrests over the weekend, a number that Tempe Police Lt. James Click has never seen with that sort of concentration. He said the complex had the atmosphere of an upscale club: On a weekend night, the chic modern-styled building had a line of people stretching "dozens of feet" out the door, while security checked guests' IDs.[2]

And a similar story from the Republic in January 2010:

Residents and guests threw eggs at police from a seventh-floor balcony Wednesday, prompting officers to make 25 underage-drinking arrests at a swanky high-rise apartment building across from Arizona State University's Tempe campus.The incident offered the latest example of what Tempe police say has become a persistently dangerous situation at the Vue on Apache, a private off-campus housing complex that opened in August.[3]

In September 2011, ASU's student-run paper, the State Press, had this to say:

Luckily, one needn’t go far; that party exists on the campus’ doorstep, and lasts all weekend, every weekend. The Vue, commonly referred to as ‘Club Vue’ by its residents and regulars, is an upscale apartment complex just outside of campus. Yet, even without explicitly designating itself as a student-housing complex, it is one. According to the FAQ on The Vue’s website, "The Vue is privately owned and operated and is no way affiliated with ASU. Because of the ___location and lifestyle, many of the tenants living at the Vue attend ASU." Each Thursday, Friday and Saturday night, The Vue becomes one of Tempe’s most exclusive nightclubs, although many of its guests are less than 21 years of age.[4]

So I'm not sure if the building needs its own article, but this sort of continuing coverage suggests to me that some content about this building belongs somewhere in Wikipedia's coverage of ASU. At minimum a merge and redirect to Arizona State University at the Tempe campus#Residence halls (which section might be retitled "Student housing" to more clearly cover this off-campus de facto dorm) would be in order.--Arxiloxos (talk) 19:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That just seems to be local news stories; nothing that makes the building notable. A redirect may be an option, but I don't think an article on the building is necessary. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 19:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No encyclopedic notability. As for a redirect, I don't really see how we can include it in the university article when it is not a part of the university. DGG ( talk ) 01:23, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked into it a little more and learned that the Vista del Sol complex[5], already listed at Arizona State University at the Tempe campus#Residence halls is another campus-adjacent, privately-managed luxury complex similar to The Vue, except that the University was involved in its development and it follows dorm living rules.[6] although it still seems to have the same sorts of issues as The Vue and some other similar complexes[7][8] Given all the articles, I thought we might add a sentence or two mentioning the availability of large-scale off-campus luxury accomodations that were considered de facto student housing, and that this had led to occasional controversy (citing articles like the ones mentioned above). But if no one else thinks this is worthwhile, I'm certainly not going to press the point. I do wonder why we couldn't have had some places like this when I was in college, though.--Arxiloxos (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Subject not notable, while the text is mostly promotional. Tylko (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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