Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tower Tomb Sayyed Se Ton

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. We can't confirm this is a copyvio, but have strong suspicions. There is consensus those are strong enough to delete. Further, the article isn't currently verified, and WP:TNT may apply Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:06, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tower Tomb Sayyed Se Ton

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Deletion for various reasons. The creator of the article has a history of copyvios, but I can't confirm one in the case of this article. The lede seems to have been lifted from Sayyid Haydar Amuli without attribution. The main content of the article is just a bunch of broken sentences that cannot be followed. Singularity42 (talk) 18:44, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The editor who created this article has had a history of copyright violations (see e.g. User talk:Northiran and User talk:پارسا آملی). Per Wikipedia:Copyright violations, this article should be presumptively deleted unless it can be proven that it is not a copyvio. MER-C 02:04, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While completely deleting the text and rewriting it would likely be the best option due to the copyright concerns, the tomb of Sayyid Haydar Amuli seems to be a widely revered and visited Sufi shrine. Some English sources exist for this information, but there's probably a ton more in the home language sources. Silver seren^C 01:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If someone is willing to re-write the article, that would be the best option. But I'm not (this is not a topic area I'm comfortable doing substantive editing in), and if it is not re-written, the current version needs to be deleted. There is a high degree of concern that this author is creating copyright violations, and the current version of the article is virtually unreadable. Singularity42 (talk) 01:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran#Tower Tomb Sayyed Se Ton to see if there are any volunteers willing to re-write this article. Singularity42 (talk) 01:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~Comment.I didn't found that is a copyvio using google.--Shrike (talk) 09:17, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The user has demonstrated repeated copyright violations of both English and non-English sources. That's why the following policy from WP:Copyright violations applies: "If contributors have been shown to have a history of extensive copyright violation, it may be assumed without further evidence that all of their major contributions are copyright violations, and they may be removed indiscriminately. Since this user copies from both English and non-English sources, it may be assumed that the second paragraph of this article is copied from a non-English source. In any event, what do you say about the lede being copied without attribution from another Wikipedia article and the second paragraph being completely unreadable (therefore leaving the article with no useful, non-copied content)? Singularity42 (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I'm an admin in Persian Wikipedia (the mother-tongue language of the creator user) He is banned from editing there because of many reasons including copyvio, submitting fake information in the articles, using many SPs (till now!), etc. He attributes the notable people to his town, Amol, without any references. In fact, he enters false info in the articles and we have to undo his contributions everyday. ●Mehran ^Debate● 08:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But what about this subject? Are there sources in Persian about the tomb of Sayyid Haydar Amuli, which seems to be a Sufi shrine? If we have those sources, then we can just rewrite the article from scratch, fixing the problem. Silver seren^C 21:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes this thumb may be existed, I found some Persian sources via Google, but they were all forums and weblogs. The matter is that the current version of this article is absolutely source-less (the link in the 'Note' section has been expired), and I think it has been written by the user, because it includes many typos and grammar mistake (like 'histori'). It could be rescued by a RS. ●Mehran ^Debate● 13:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Currently fails WP:VERIFY. The article could be restarted if reliable sources are found. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 12:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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