Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyrone Relph

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:17, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Unable to find sufficient enough coverage in reliable sourges to establish notability or to verify most of the content of the article. Found this that shows that he is an Irish modern rock artist who was at one point signed to a minor record label, nothing more. The subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. —J04n(talk page) 14:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions. ——J04n(talk page) 14:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete fails WP:N and WP:V JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 11:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: unreferenced WP:BLP, with no indication of significant coverage in Google News or Google Books. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 09:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I independently looked and couldn't find sourcing to establish notability. I thought there might be some based on some on claims in the article, but its mostly puff.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 14:19, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. Fails WP:BIO, etc. Though we need an article on the woman in the picture with him per WP:HOTTIE. Dismas|^(talk) 11:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Winner of the 2010 MTV independent songwriter of the year 2010. http://ema.mtv.co.uk/press/press-fantastic-sounds-winner http://www.cdcleisure.net/2.php?&band=432&venue=Spring+%26+Airbrake. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 16:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Actually he won the 2010 Swift FANtastic Sounds Competition -- this is co-sponsored by MTV Europe Music Awards, but is not part of their annual awards, and there is no indication that this is a "major music competition" per WP:NMUSIC. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 19:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• First sentence of source says 'TYRONE RELPH WINNER OF THE MTV INDEPENDENT SONGWRITING AWARD 2010'. Are you saying that is fake? The claim is collaborated with the image File:Tyrone_relph_madrid_2010.jpg. I have asked for another opinion. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 11:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• See 2010 MTV EMA Winners! & Nominees. Then see Swift FANtastic Sounds Competition (and also see http://ema.mtv.co.uk/press/press-fantastic-sounds-winner which you cited above). It is MTV-EMA-sponsored but not part of any MTV award. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 11:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• The winners and nominations list are incomplete. Using a sponsors name on an award is common practice in some sports perhaps it occurred here also. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 14:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Striking my keep per J04n's opinion below. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 00:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, considering the late date that new sources have been added to this article and the ongoing debate as to what award the subject has actually won, I suggest that this discussion be relisted. As the nominator, I would like a chance to look over the sources. Thank you J04n(talk page) 12:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 23:55, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Thank you for relisting, when I discovered that SunCreator had found sources there was only about 90 minutes left before the discussion was eligible for closure and I wanted to give the sources consideration. Had I found the sources before nominating, I probably would not have nominated but now that it's here I'm not comfortable reversing my position unless I'm convinced that the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO. Unfortunately I'm not convinced. He has clearly won an award, the sources give conflicting reports as to what that award is. After looking at the cdcleisure site it is clear that its purpose is to promote acts that are scheduled to play at its venues, so I'm not going to consider it to be reliable or independent of the subject. That leaves the subject as the winner of the 'Swift FANtastic Sounds Competition' and kudos to him, unfortunately this has received coverage nowhere except by its sponsors, I don't consider it to be a 'major award'. Should his career continue to advance the article can certainly be recreated but until he receives more widespread coverage the article does not meet WP:MUSICBIO and should be deleted. J04n(talk page) 00:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. —Snappy (talk) 17:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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