Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Utamo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Utamo

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Contested draftification of an article about a grandiose planned Saudi resort development. Draftified by User:AntiDionysius as promotional and advertising. Moved back to article space by its originator. The text of the article is about what the Saudi government says about the planned resort, not about what third parties have said about it, so that it does not speak for itself. A check of the references shows that none of them are independent sources. They are all either publications by the Saudi government, or press releases by the Saudi government to news media, and so it does not satisfy general notability.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	www.neom.com	Announcement of establishment of NEOM	No	Yes	Yes	No
2	www.neom.com	Announcement of plans for UTAMO in NEOM	No	Yes	Yes	No
3	www.arabnews.com	Reads like a press release from the Saudi office developing NEOM and UTAMO	No, a press release	Yes	Yes	Sort of
4	www.spa.gov.sa. Saudi Press Agency	States that it is a press release	No, a press release	Yes	Yes	No

The project is probably too soon for independent secondary coverage. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Entertainment and Saudi Arabia. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: problem of promotional language remains, and all the sourcing reasons for deletion laid out here make total sense. I think at this stage it will be difficult to find any source that isn't almost all PR fluff - - AntiDionysius (talk) 21:51, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by nominator:

This is the first of four articles about parts of NEOM, a grandiose Saudi commercial, industrial, and recreational development:

Robert McClenon (talk) 07:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No evidence of notability. And no surprise there, as it doesn't exist yet. Maproom (talk) 18:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.