- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete all --JForget 00:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Vincent Demitri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
This will be a group nomination of a walled garden surrounding the subject of this article, Vincent Demitri. Mr. Demitri's article presents little in the way of notability to start with. Google searches for his book get zero hits; he himself gets 19 hits; his band Visara, searched as '"Visara" band', gets two hits... essentially, there are zero reliable sources outside of the Myspace refs given. Mr. Demitri himself fails WP:BIO, and his bands both fail WP:MUSIC, in my opinion. Delete Tony Fox (arf!) 06:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I am also nominating the following related pages:
Are you seriously considering deleting this? Obviously you haven't heard his music, seen his visual workings, or anything related because if you did you'd understand the importance he has as an artist in this culturally-deprived world despite being relatively unknown; I say "relatively" unknown because if you speak to any gallery owner on the west coast the name is very familiar not to mention with the colleges mentioned in the bio about him although he isn't "mainstream" as other multi-media artists that may come to your mind are. The novel is a bitch to find but DOES exist (I know because I own a hardbound copy), and (to bring up the west coast again) Visara is more than "little-known" in the Electro-Industrial scene, as well as the album Ember Iris. Rethink your motioning for deletion, just because you haven't heard of Vincent Demitri, Tony Fox, doesn't mean the rest of the world hasn't. Regardless of what you've found in your so-called "searching" the fact remains that Demitri is a brilliant painter, photographer, musician, and film director. I know this personally because I was a live technician on the Ember Iris tour in 2005 and WAS THERE to learn much about this character. You need to dig a bit deeper if you want to discredit Demitri, such as by calling said universities or even the clubs listed on the Visara page, although that would only due the opposite of what you're trying to do by verifying what you claim doesn't exist. Mixedinternal 07:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mixedinternal (talk • contribs) 07:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC) — Mixedinternal (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- The issue here is a complete and utter lack of reliable sources to prove anything you have posted in these articles. Without reliable sources, we cannot verify any of the claims, and all content here must be verifiable. If you have reliable, non-trivial references to back up anything that is in the article, then please bring it forward for consideration. He himself must meet WP:BIO. The bands must meet WP:MUSIC. If you can do something to prove that he does, please do. Tony Fox (arf!) 07:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all per nom. Demitri clearly fails WP:BIO. Even page author admits Demitri is "relatively unknown" - i.e., non-notable by Wikipedia standards. --Hyperbole 07:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all per nom and Hyperbole. Clear lack of notability. GlassCobra 08:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever, delete the pages if you want; you're just going to see them again in the middle of 2008 when The Stoic Club releases Redwomb and all these pages are put back up again. Congrats on just wasting time, but for the record the Visara MySpace page has a logged (and visible to all) 100,000 + views, and The Stoic Club already has over 15,000 views despite being announced in October of 2007. Apparently even though the three or so admins for Wikipedia can't appreciate Demitri's works plenty of other people can. Mixedinternal 12:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete wow, toot your own horn much? It's barely a big deal to undelete an article on the offchance it does become popular. (By the way, if Mixedinternal isn't Demitri himself, I'll eat my hat.) JuJube 12:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non-notable, fails WP:BIO, etc. -RiverHockey 19:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
JuJube, if you can read you would've already seen that I'm a stage technician by trade and worked with Visara in 2004, something already stated--regardless, delete it if you will, the guidelines are pretty strict on what is Wiki-able and as someone who's semi-successful (underground) and not prominently successful he just doesn't fit those guidelines after all. Like I said, give him half a year and the pages will have to be put back up. Mixedinternal 20:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC) 20:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If, at that time, he's got multiple, non-trivial reliable sources that back up the claims in the articles and otherwise meets the various guidelines for musicians and bands, then that's fine. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; future possibilities of notability aren't good reasoning for an article either. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I know what you said, I just don't believe you. JuJube 00:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As per above--non-notable. JNW 01:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Let's clear some things up. I am Vincent Demitri, Mixedinternal is a bothersome character with whom I have the misfortune of living in the same community of. I'll be honest, I am NOT famous, just another artist, so personally I don't feel myself reputable enough for a Wiki entry. I was informed that my Wikipedia page was being deleted and with me not ever creating one I was a bit confused; when it was cleared up that the entry was about ME and I gave no authorization for it to be created in the first place (I would prefer my privacy) I not only became irate, I personally decided to join this "debate." Mixedinternal, stop the bullshit and leave your fangirlism out of this, I DO NOT want an entry about me--please go as far as to delete all information related to myself, Visara, and The Stoic Club unless they fit the Wikipedia guidelines to a tee for the sake of this website's rules and the sake of my privacy. Wikipedia, please delete this entry, and if you can let's keep it this way. I am just another shut-in now, and I want my life to be as is in private unless I say so...at this time, I do not say so. Final note: all the the information about myself and my music was true, but as it does stand unverified it isn't relevant, but more to-the-point is that there are huge gaps of my own personal life left untouched. It's not like I was born, there was light, and then there was art. I actually DO things other than art, but I digress. Delete all these pages (the one about me, Visara, TSC), please, and when you can cite some sources then you can do as you wish on Wikipedia. I've done a good job at remaining relatively unknown on purpose, can we please keep it that way? Emberiris 02:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC) — Emberiris (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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