Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WOLFRAM

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The result was keep‎. Star Mississippi 18:03, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WOLFRAM

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Non-notable, promotional page about Australian DJ. Page created by paid editor (WP:COI has been appropriately declared), so page needs to well meet notability criteria, but in my view falls well short of WP:MUSICBIO, WP:ANYBIO. Claim to fame was a decade ago so if notability was supposedly achieved, WP:RSs should have been visible by now. Cabrils (talk) 06:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Austria. Shellwood (talk) 09:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cabrils, thank you for your feedback. I have updated the page to reflect his current status as a pivotal figure in the fashion and electronic music space, citing the most prestigious outlets having published recent pieces on him in the last 2 years- including Vogue Magazine, INDIE Mag, and Sleek Magazine, and included his collaboration with renowned brand ZALANDO on their campaign last year. These are all cited and included in the most recent edits. In the sources I have added, it is adequate that WP:RSs is visible and the requirements are satisfied. Please let me know if you have any additional feedback Natlaur (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read about WP:COIRESPONSE. – The Grid (talk) 19:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Little to no coverage in RS for this person. I don't find any as well. German Vogue is probably the best one, rest are interviews or primary sourcing. Nothing for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, many of this artist’s coverage is in German. As I mentioned above, I respectfully believe the sources do in fact meet the criteria for RS. Monocle, Vogue, INDIE magazine, and Interview are all highly reputable and reliable sources that establish noteworthiness, especially within the artist’s existing niche- as well as extremely high profile campaigns for ZALANDO. I would kindly request that you reconsider the delete vote, or perhaps share any requirements that in your eyes satisfy the criteria so that I can amend the article to meet your standards for this not to be deleted. 93.40.185.121 (talk) 22:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Wolfram has a feature article covering pages 28 to 33 on the July 2020 issue of DJ Mag: [1]. This is firmly in WP:RSMUSIC territory; with the journalist likening Wolfram to an electronic version of Mozart ("El Amadeus electronico"). Therefore, coupled with the Vogue coverage alone, I rather suspect the subject is very likely notable. The article itself, however, appears to be a prime candidate for WP:TNT as it is largely WP:PUFFERY. ResonantDis_tortion 08:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Draftify~~ - perhaps the best option here is to incubate in draftspace. ResonantDis_tortion 09:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Further comment: According to this citation [2], Wolfram was nominated for a notable award (Amadeus Austrian Music Awards) in 2012 - which meets WP:MUSICBIO#8. There is also further coverage about his album, Amadeus, available: The Ransom Note and Der Standard. Review of album Wolfram in Die Tageszeitung on Proquest: [3]. Also a profile here on Music Austria. ResonantDis_tortion 15:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the proper steps for an editor with a COI is to create an article in Draft space and submit it to AFC. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that an article for this subject did exist at Wolfram Eckert but it was deleted through a PROD years ago. It in no way resembled this referenced article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I hope more music-oriented editors will help assess this article. Keep, Delete or Draftify?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change !vote to Keep. I have updated the article - adding RS sourcing with significant coverage of his albums, added the notable award nomination, and significantly edited to remove most of the Puffery to be more WP:NPOV. ResonantDis_tortion 14:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the added sources such as a 5 page article in DJ Mag which is a reliable source, coverage in newspapers such as Der Standard, winning a notable award. Also found a staff written AllMusic album review here, passes WP:GNG imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.