Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zef

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 15:47, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Zef

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Non notable / Neologism / WP:NOT#DICTIONARY. Fails WP:V. Suggest redirect to Die Antwoord. Widefox; talk 21:11, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Some sources: [1], [2], [3]. I think there's enough for WP:V. --Sammy1339 (talk) 23:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Crucially, see Comment below. Widefox; talk 20:12, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - We're swimming in good sources. Here's a couple more: Mother Jones, New York Times Magazine. ∴ ZX95 ^[discuss] 14:39, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto independent of

Comment How many sources show notability for Zef, not Die Antwoord? WP:NOTINHERITED. Passing mentions of Zef by them are primary, non-independent. They need to be WP:SECONDARY, independent. Articles about Zef. At least two of them for WP:GNG. Sources about Die Antwoord, passing mentions in articles about them only confirm no independent notability, suggest merge and redirect to section. Widefox; talk 20:12, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The 2013 merger discussion at Die Antwoord#Merge proposal Zef got this right; zef is obviously a well-covered notable concept, and reliable sources say it's not the same thing as Die Antwoord. (Some HighBeam sources for Jack Parow as a "zef" artist: [4].) --Arxiloxos (talk) 05:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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