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February 9

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Category:Capital T

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Category:Computer game user templates

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:PC game user templates Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both are video games. Gonnym (talk) 13:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Against computer games are for playing on a computer, and video games are for playing on a television. That is a big difference.Catfurball (talk) 15:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please familiarize yourself with the subject. See 2019 in video games which includes PC, console and mobile; Wikipedia:Naming conventions (video games)#Disambiguation which says to use "(video game)" over "(computer game)"; Category:Video games which, as the category says This category is for topic related to all video games regardless of platform, such as games for computers, consoles, and cellphones. A computer game is just one type of video game and not how you described it, that would be "console" game (though to be even more precise, you can play any PC game on a TV). --Gonnym (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Apple Inc. mobile phones

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 22#Category:Apple Inc. mobile phones

Category:Immigration by continent

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 04:32, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Misleading titles. Most immigration is inside the continents, not from outside. And it might be worth considering renaming all these continental categories "migration" rather than immigration. Rathfelder (talk) 08:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, most of the "country" subcategories are ""immigration to … " so should the "continent" subcategories be different? Hugo999 (talk) 03:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would it be more sensible to delete the Illegal immigration continent categories? Apart from Europe almost all the articles are concerned with individual countries, and there certainly aren't so many that they need subdividing. Rathfelder (talk) 21:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Awards of the Holy See

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Category:Dungeons & Dragons aberrations

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Category:Dungeons & Dragons giants

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 22#Category:Dungeons & Dragons giants

Category:Forgotten Realms creatures

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 22#Category:Forgotten Realms creatures

Category:Czech-speaking territorial units in Croatia

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 22#Category:Czech-speaking territorial units in Croatia

Category:Categories by branch

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 20:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, no clear distinction between these two categories in type of content. (By the way, purge Category:Military branches which is something completely different.) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:History of computing topical overviews

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Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration

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The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (Talk) 16:59, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename as option A to align with parent Category:Members of the Cabinet of the United States. A different rename (option B) to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration was opposed for speedy renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sexual Minorities in Mahabharata

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 22#Category:Sexual Minorities in Mahabharata

Category:The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

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The result of the discussion was: Keep (WP:NAC). DexDor (talk) 08:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content for an eponymous category. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:G4 (television)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 16:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Probably the best option here is to rename this for G4 Media, but I'm open to other options as well. Gonnym (talk) 21:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:LaserDiscs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 17:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion with Category:LaserDisc, and clarify that the category is about individual releases on LaserDisc, and not LaserDiscs as a whole. Trivialist (talk) 15:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Transgender in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, 1 article in two categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Multiplayer gaming services

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:01, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per consensus discussion at WTVG, "gaming" is discouraged and replaced with "games" or "video games" where possible. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Online gaming services

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per consensus discussion at WTVG, "gaming" is discouraged and replaced with "games" or "video games" where possible. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Social casual gaming

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus for social-network games, so rename to Category:Social casual games.
Nominator's rationale: Per consensus discussion at WTVG, "gaming" is discouraged and replaced with "games" or "video games" where possible. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Need more discussion between Category:Social casual games and Category:Social-network games.
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Category:IUCN Category Ia

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Category:Moonshine by country

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a compelling list, but it is not an appropriate category. In the best cases, such as pisco, "moonshine by country" is a confusing tag. In the worst cases, such as brandy, it's largely misleading. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 15:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: as explained by the nominator. Category and article-list confuse illegaly produced spirits (=moonshine) and traditional brandies, which don't share the same technical and sociocultural contexts.--Phso2 (talk) 17:07, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It's far easier to fix incorrect entries on a list, and one already exists so listifying is unnecessary. By the way, this seems to have been emptied during this nomination, which it shouldn't have been. Grutness...wha? 03:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not emptied—relocated to Category:Moonshine by distilled drink, a move which does not address my primary concern of 'by' appearing in a category name. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 12:05, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is empty, which it wasn't before the nomination. It should still have its articles. It also shouldn't have been merged while the CfD discussion was in progress. Nominating a category for renaming, or for deletion if it's unnecessary are fine - pre-empting the outcome of the discussion is not. As the instructions say, Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion. Grutness...wha? 03:19, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so, Grutness: I should have said not merely emptied or something to that effect. I was incensed by the relocation, and precision of language took its leave of me. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 18:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Noggin (brand) original programming

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 04:33, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category refers to the TV channel Noggin, not the entire brand article as a whole (which includes non-TV services like a website, mobile app, etc.) Squittens (talk) 14:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Males

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Category:Biology of gender

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Category:Microscopic organisms described by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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The result of the discussion was: delete (deletion was only opposed by one participant). – Fayenatic London 16:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:Microorganisms etc. I'd also support deletion as this isn't a way that most organism articles are categorized; instead categorization is (amongst other things) by who named the organism (e.g. Category:Taxa named by Carl Linnaeus). This may also be non-defining (e.g. for Infusoria). DexDor (talk) 12:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - nomination adjusted. DexDor (talk) 06:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete "described" is used in taxonomy categories such as Category:Plants described in 1753 which give the year of formal scientific description under the system established by Linnaeus. If DexDor hadn't mentioned "Taxa named by Carl Linnaeus" in the nom, I wouldn't have remember that "named" is used instead of "described" for categories based on the namer/describer. We don't have any categories for organisms observed/described by pre-Linnaean biologists (Aristotle provided the earliest (surviving) descriptions of some species, but doesn't have a category). van Leeuwenhoek is somewhat of a special case, as he is the first person who can be proven to have observed the species he did (many species new to science have been previously observed by indigenous peoples; van Leeuwenhoek observed species that couldn't have possibly been observed by anybody before him). If the category is kept, I'd suggest renaming to "Microorganisms first observed by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek" to avoid confusion with the categories for taxa "named by" and "described in YEAR". Plantdrew (talk) 22:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it'd be a bit odd if, for example, Eimeria stiedae was categorized for being described in 1895 and categorized for being described by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek (died 1723). I support rename proposed by Plantdrew or (preferably) deletion. DexDor (talk) 11:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My preference is option e (then c, d, b and a) - deletion on the basis that this is non-defining and is a categorization scheme that only works for a tiny fraction of articles about microorganisms. It should also be noted that van Leeuwenhoek's article is a better source of info about what he observed (e.g. because it can include things such as muscle fibre) than this category. DexDor (talk) 12:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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