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Category:Meitei transgender and transsexual people

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 10#Category:Meitei transgender and transsexual people

Category:Baseball tournament squads

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Baseball tournament squads to Category:Baseball team rosters

Nominator's rationale: Not much of a distinction between the two categories. The categories would benefit from a merger as they are very closely related. WP:OVERLAPCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aidan721: correct me if I am wrong but it looks like these are tournament rosters rather than team rosters. Or is this distinction not relevant? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:52, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aidan721: see above, apparently my first ping did not reach you. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oops sorry, must've missed it. I just feel as though the distinction between tournament rosters and team rosters is not very relevant, and there is neither category is very large to necessitate a separate category. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Merge - It seems that the subcats (and sub-subcats) of Category:Sports squads seems to vary between the use of "roster" and "squad". And I think it's clearer to keep the teams assembled for a particular tournament, separate from teams assembled for league play. - jc37 10:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 18:56, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Western New Guinea geography stubs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 10#Western New Guinea geography stubs

Faculty by university or college in Finland

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:37, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Faculty by university or college in Finland to Category:Academic personnel by university or college in Finland
Propose renaming Category:Aalto University faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the Aalto University
Propose renaming Category:Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture
Propose renaming Category:Åbo Akademi University faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the Åbo Akademi University
Propose renaming Category:University of Eastern Finland faculty‎ to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Eastern Finland
Propose renaming Category:Hanken School of Economics faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the Hanken School of Economics
Propose renaming Category:Academics of the Helsinki University of Technology to Category:Academic personnel of the Helsinki University of Technology
Propose renaming Category:University of Jyväskylä faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Jyväskylä
Propose renaming Category:Academics of the Lappeenranta University of Technology to Category:Academic personnel of the Lappeenranta University of Technology
Propose renaming Category:Academics of the University of Oulu to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Oulu
Propose renaming Category:Academics of the Sibelius Academy‎ to Category:Academic personnel of the Sibelius Academy
Propose renaming Category:University of Tampere faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Tampere
Propose renaming Category:Tampere University faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the Tampere University
Propose renaming Category:University of Lapland faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Lapland
Propose renaming Category:University of the Arts Helsinki faculty to Category:Academic personnel of the University of the Arts Helsinki
Propose renaming Category:University of Vaasa faculty‎ to Category:Academic personnel of the University of Vaasa

Nominator's rationale: rename aligning the category names per precedent in this discussion. Currently some categories use "academics", others use "faculty". "Academic personnel" seems a proper new alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose- I must say that I object to a cfd closure which adopts a term found nowhere else in the tree and not mentioned in the nomination. The nomination should have been relisted with the new proposal which I would have opposed. Oculi (talk) 12:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jc37, Rathfelder, Piotrus, Peterkingiron, Necrothesp, Renata3, UnitedStatesian, and Place Clichy: pinging closer and other contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll happily treat this as a request for clarification.

In the discussion, the use of "faculty" was opposed overall. And not only was Academic personnel proposed and supported in the discussion, but we should follow the main article name (see also WP:C2D), unless there is an over-riding consensus - which in this case, there clearly was not.

I hope this helps. - jc37 00:26, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, more clear. Also we need more participation at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_July_29#Category:Scholars_and_academics. TIA. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piotrus (talk • contribs)
Oppose- Julia Serano was an academic personnel of UC Berkeley but she was not a faculty member. Sharouser (talk) 15:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If researchers at a university are not included in the term "faculty" then that is all the more reason to move away from the term "faculty". Marcocapelle (talk) 04:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- This is important. The issue of whether a person is included as a faculty member is very rarely mentioned in an article and we do not have a high level category to put them in.Rathfelder (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, and discussion on the rest of the countries can follow after this one is closed. The main article is at academic personnel because the meaning of "faculty" depends on one's geography, and the categories should follow the same logic. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Finland (being in Europe) is more likely to use British than American nomenclature. American analogies are unhelpful. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

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Category:Meitei transgender and transsexual people

Category:Baseball tournament squads

Western New Guinea geography stubs

Faculty by university or college in Finland

Category:Finnish professors

Category:Academics from Africa

Category:Free biosimulation software

Category:Bioimaging software

Category:Breton journalists

Sri Lankan businesspeople by ethnicity