Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 16
September 16
editCategory:Executed Ming dynasty people
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- The result of the discussion was: merge all. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Seems duplicative.Hi! I've never done this before! Any mistakes are my own.There might be more of these for other periods. Category:People executed by the Ming dynasty seems better... treed? like in the category tree? Although the two are not congruent, since this is a child of Category:Executed Chinese people by period and the other one isn't, and this one is specifically for Chinese people and the other one isn't. Still seems like one category too many for essentially the same concept. Folly Mox (talk) 12:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, is duplicative indeed. Ultimately the category might be renamed to Category:People executed by China under the Ming dynasty but let's leave that for another time. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe, but only as part of a wider nomination of all subcats in Category:Executed Chinese people by period. – Fayenatic London 12:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Below are the sibling categories. Afterwards nephew/niece categories may need to be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Executed Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Jin dynasty (266–420) people to Category:People executed by the Jin dynasty (266–420)
- Category:Executed Liao dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Liao dynasty
- Category:Executed Qin dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Qin dynasty
- Category:Executed Qing dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Qing dynasty
- Category:Executed Sixteen Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Sixteen Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Song dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Song dynasty
- Category:Executed Northern and Southern dynasties people to Category:People executed by a Northern and Southern dynasties state
- Category:Executed Sui dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Sui dynasty
- Category:Executed Tang dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Tang dynasty
- Category:Executed Three Kingdoms people to Category:People executed by a Three Kingdoms state
- Category:Executed Yuan dynasty people to Category:People executed by the Yuan dynasty
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The additional categories have not been tagged for a full week; relisting. If there are no further comments this should be all set for merging.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Virat Kohli
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 24#Category:Virat Kohli
Category:History of Bechuanaland Protectorate
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: merge, two redundant category layers with two subcategories in total. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:History of the Ashanti Empire
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Military of the Ashanti Empire. I would not object to renaming the latter to Category:Military history of the Ashanti Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, category serves no purpose. AusLondonder (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:History of the Republic of Artsakh
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:History of the Republic of Artsakh to Category:History of Nagorno-Karabakh
- Nominator's rationale: rename per main article History of Nagorno-Karabakh and because many articles in the category are about the period before the Republic of Artsakh was established. After this rename Category:Republic of Artsakh should become a subcategory instead of a parent category. By all means keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:André Previn
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: With all related subcats in the "works by" category scheme, this eponymous parent is unnecessary. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 15:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Years
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus to split; as always, editors are free to create categories such as Category:Years of the 15th century (and this result is neither an endorsement nor a rejection of doing so). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Years to Category:Years BC and Category:Years AD
- Nominator's rationale: I think it would worth moving the relevant sub-categories, for individual years, into Category:Years BC and Category:Years AD. What do others think? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rather create e.g. Category:Years of the 15th century, similar to Category:Years of the 15th century by continent and Category:Years of the 15th century by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works for me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Questions What is the benefit? What would happen to subcats which span AD & BC, either now or in the future? ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 23:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shooting people
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Newly created category that duplicates an existing category, and is extremely liable to being misunderstood and misused. These were created as parents for a new Category:Shooting coaches hierarchy, but the problem is that the name is highly ambiguous -- it isn't clearly communicating the distinction between the intended "people involved in sport shooting" and unintended uses like "people who shot other people" or "people who were shot" or "people who committed mass shootings" that wouldn't belong in the same place as sport shooters.
So since we already have Category:Sport shooters for people involved in sport shooting, and the coaches category has already been added to it, we don't need this to coexist alongside it. Bearcat (talk) 14:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, I agree that this duplicate category tree is more trouble than its worth. Mason (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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Misplaced comment
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. This needs to get a closed template to stop AnomieBOT from thinking it is an open discussion. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
I am also of the opinion to rename or remove this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attorney001 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Attorney001: please move your comment to the right section. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: I cannot determine what section this comment was intended for, and even perusing OP's edit history didn't shed any light — however, as it was simply sitting at the top of the page as a standalone comment, it was becoming a "comment" on every new nomination that got added above it, forcing every new nomination to have to be edited to move it again. Accordingly, I've given it a headline to stop that from happening, but it should still be moved if anybody can figure out where it belongs. Bearcat (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People from Guararé
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Los Santos Province. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People from Guararé to Category:People from Guararé District
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rather merge to Category:People from Los Santos Province because Category:People from Guararé District is equally empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lost in Quebec: are you okay with this alternative merge target? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with it. Do whatever is best. Lost in Quebec (talk) 08:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lost in Quebec: are you okay with this alternative merge target? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Skiers from Shenyang
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- The result of the discussion was: delete and {{trout}} LibStar for emptying the category prematurely. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Contains no entries. LibStar (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The nominator prematurely emptied this category. Liz Read! Talk! 07:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @LibStar: it wasn't particularly helpful to remove Guo Xinxin prematurely. More importantly, why shouldn't it be merged to the parent categories, instead of deleted? That question also applies to your other manual removals. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article Guo Xinxin contains no citation for being from Shenyang. Applying WP:BURDEN. LibStar (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fair point. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article Guo Xinxin contains no citation for being from Shenyang. Applying WP:BURDEN. LibStar (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People from Kangping County
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People from Kangping County to Category:People from Shenyang
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry in this category. LibStar (talk) 06:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People from Faku County
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People from Faku County to Category:People from Shenyang
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry in this category. LibStar (talk) 06:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:American expatriate soccer players in Turkey
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American expatriate soccer players and Category:American expatriate sportspeople in Turkey. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per multiple discussions, triple-intersection soccer categories are not to be used. See: [1] . BlameRuiner (talk) 06:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose; this is part of a very large category tree of expatriate sportspeople.Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- In fact there isn't a large category tree of expatriate soccer people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, oh I see now. Thanks for the clarification! In which case I'm neutral. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- In fact there isn't a large category tree of expatriate soccer people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be merged to Category:American expatriate sportspeople in Turkey? Shouldn't volleyball and basketball categories be nominated too? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/diffuse to Category:American expatriate soccer players and Category:American expatriate sportspeople in Turkey, which is how we usually categorise such people, and then delete. Having such a narrow triple-intersection is not needed - and I agree the same principles should apply to other sports. GiantSnowman 18:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/diffuse per GiantSnowman's reasoning and breakdown above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris1834 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Dumbest Wikipedians
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't really understand why, since this is under the subcategory of Wikipedians, and also has the humor template box. The userbox on the page was from an editable userbox template, so it can't really be deleted. It's a humorous user category that users can add to their page, and I don't see a problem with it. From Rushpedia, the free stupid goofball (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, let's then keep the userbox (which wasn't nominated anyway). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There is an accompanying userbox that probably should be tagged for deletion or this category might just get recreated if it gets deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 07:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't mind deleting the userbox, but, generally, there are many more userboxes than user categories anyway, so it is not a compelling argument. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Animated television series about hippopotamuses
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Nominator blocked; anyone should feel free to renominate. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Better title, as there is only one extant Wikipedia article about a live action television series about hippopotamuses, Potamus Park. FilmandTVFan50 (talk) 01:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile there are six articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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