Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 August 5
August 5
editCategory:Flemish geologists
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Flemish geologists to Category:Flemish scientists and Category:Geologists
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 23:17, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. LibStar (talk) 23:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:11, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Kuala Lumpur politicians
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:57, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kuala Lumpur politicians to Category:Politicians from Kuala Lumpur
- Nominator's rationale: I created Category:Politicians from Kuala Lumpur then realised Category:Kuala Lumpur politicians already existed. It would be more correct to say politicians from X, as not all these people represented Kuala for example they became a Singaporean or Australian politician. LibStar (talk) 05:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, this is part of Category:Malaysian politicians by state which appears to be about state politics. Better merge Category:Politicians from Kuala Lumpur to Category:People from Kuala Lumpur if they weren't involved in Kuala Lumpur politics. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, GoldRomean (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- now support oppose Category:Politicians from Kuala Lumpur is now deleted. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Marco above. -- Just N. (talk) 14:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Terry Blade albums
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:58, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Categories with only redirects all going to the same target with little info on the individual titles. No navigational benefit. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:36, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, the article about the musician is the only content that exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Aboriginal National Historic Sites of Canada
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 August 27#Category:Aboriginal National Historic Sites of Canada
Category:UEFA Champions League referees
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:59, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization, this is a non-defining characteristic. The scope of these categories is way too wide compared to one like Category:Premier League referees. Most international referees from Europe will end up officiating at least in the qualifying rounds of the Champions/Europa League. This means thousands of people have officiated in these competitions since the 50s. And nearly all the Champions League referees will have officiated in the Europa League. Only an achievement like officiating in the final would be defining. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:24, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, agree it's non-defining. GiantSnowman 20:30, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, this is a similar case as in WP:PERFCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Crosstown, Missouri
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:59, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose Deletion of Category:Crosstown, Missouri
- Nominator's rationale It is very random for a cat to exist, that is this specific, for an unincorporated place, and has only 3 items.
- Support as the churches in the category, the only other items besides the town itself, are covered in the parent county's Churches category. --HighlandFacts (talk) 20:31, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, having this categorized at county level suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Fine dining restaurants in Portland, Oregon
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 00:59, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I don't think these categories have enough articles to justify splitting down to the city level - especially as their Oregon parent categories only have one article each. Suggest merging to the state level for now. (No need to merge to their other parent categories as the articles are already in sibling categories, such as Category:Defunct seafood restaurants in Portland, Oregon.) – numbermaniac 17:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Nixon's Enemies List
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Members of Richard Nixon's Enemies List with no consensus on whether the category should continue to exist or not. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Nixon's Enemies List to Category:Members of Richard Nixon's Enemies List
- Nominator's rationale: Every person in this category is a member of the Richard Nixon's Enemies List, except for its author, George T. Bell, who is separated from the rest of the alphabetically listed people. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 15:48, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support & Lean Toward Keep. (as creator) More accurately describes content. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:29, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete unconvinced of WP:DEFINING for most members of the list (t · c) buidhe 00:30, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I took a quick count of the biography articles excluding Bell and 12 mention Nixon's list in the lede, 12 in the body, and 1 not at all. (The quality of the average article is probably only around Start class though.) I was honestly expecting more of a lopsided count; this one seems like a close call. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:03, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Oppose nondefining assumption. -- Just N. (talk) 14:21, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Deniers of the Armenian genocide
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Note that WP:BLPCAT applies to uses of this category, and the WP:BURDEN of providing a citation and WP:ONUS of demonstrating consensus for inclusion rests on editors seeking to add/retain the use of the category on any given article. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:20, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Pretty straightforward case of WP:OPINIONCAT, non defining for most category members. (t · c) buidhe 12:38, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Another reason to favor deletion is use of the category to create blp vio problems, for example at Ryan Gingeras (t · c) buidhe 12:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: The category should be used to define clear-cut deniers of the genocide, as denial of the genocide is the state policy of Turkey, but if you think some in the category do not actually deny it, then only they should be removed. JPHC2003 (talk) 01:27, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: This is one of 5 subcats-by-Genocide in Category:Genocide deniers, all of which should only be used for people who actively promote denial of the respective Genocides. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:36, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is nothing in the category name or description that indicates it's anything more than an opinion. Those other categories should probably be deleted as well. (t · c) buidhe 13:26, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, almost all articles are about people living in a country where denial of the Armenian genocide is very normal. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- Just N. (talk) 14:22, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Rugby teams in Toronto
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- The result of the discussion was: not renamed. (non-admin closure) – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Rugby teams in Toronto (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Rugby union teams in Toronto
- Nominator's rationale: The category blends rugby union and rugby league which are separated in the tree. Three of the four are rugby union and one (Toronto Wolfpack) is rugby league, therefore it would be suitable to move it to Category:Sports clubs and teams in Toronto. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: There's only four articles in the category, so creating separate specific subcats for union and/or league teams, versus keeping them all in the broader parent category, does not seem necessary. Perhaps it makes sense to rename the category to Category:Rugby football teams in Toronto to align with the main article (rugby football) and parent category naming conventions (ie Category:Rugby football by populated place, Category:Rugby football teams). TDL (talk) 17:55, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- Just N. (talk) 14:24, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Ambassadors of Ethiopia to Iceland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Ambassadors of Ethiopia to Iceland to Category:Ambassadors to Iceland
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. This is a non resident ambassador position. The 1 entry is already in several ambassador cats so need to merge to Category:Ambassadors of Ethiopia. LibStar (talk) 07:15, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:24, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Burial sites of the House of Dăneşti
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Burial sites of the House of Dăneşti to Category:Burial sites of Romanian royal houses and Category:Burial sites of the House of Basarab
- Propose merging Category:Burial sites of the House of Drăculești to Category:Burial sites of Romanian royal houses and Category:Burial sites of the House of Basarab
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in each of these categories., this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:25, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Indian comedians by populated place
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Indian comedians by populated place to Category:Comedians by populated place and Category:Indian comedians
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is redundant SMasonGarrison 04:25, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:26, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of England
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of England to Category:English expatriates
- Nominator's rationale: This category was recreated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_5#Category:Expatriates_of_the_Kingdom_of_England SMasonGarrison 04:07, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, strangely enough I did not realize in the previous discussion that the proposal would lead to removal of the content from Category:People from the Kingdom of England. Hypothetically we might merge Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of England to Category:People from the Kingdom of England but that should be done manually and I really do not think it is worth the effort. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- Just N. (talk) 14:28, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Iceland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Left guide (talk) 08:05, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Iceland to Category:Ambassadors to Iceland.
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. This is also a non-resident ambassador position. The entry was also ambassador to several other countries so no need to merge with Category:Diplomats for Pakistan. LibStar (talk) 03:56, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:28, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Metropolitan Police officers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:21st-century Deputy Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Deputy Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:21st-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century Deputy Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Deputy Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:20th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:21st-century Metropolitan Police chief officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police chief officers and Category:21st-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century Metropolitan Police chief officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police chief officers and Category:20th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:19th-century Metropolitan Police chief officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police chief officers and Category:19th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:21st-century Metropolitan Police officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police officers and Category:21st-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century Metropolitan Police officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police officers and Category:20th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:19th-century Metropolitan Police officers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Metropolitan Police officers and Category:19th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:21st-century Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:21st-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:20th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:19th-century Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Assistant Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:19th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:21st-century Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:21st-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:20th-century British police officers
- Propose merging Category:19th-century Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Commissioners of Police of the Metropolis and Category:19th-century British police officers
- Nominator's rationale: There's no need to WP:diffuse by century for all these specific ranks of the Metropolitan Police. This intersection is so narrow, when we barely have a populate police officers by century tree. SMasonGarrison 03:50, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, very narrow intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nomination. --Woko Sapien (talk) 20:08, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Israeli paediatric endocrinologists
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). – 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) 01:04, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Israeli paediatric endocrinologists to Category:Pediatric endocrinologists, Category:Israeli endocrinologists and Category:Israeli pediatricians.
- Propose merging Category:Pakistani paediatric endocrinologists to Category:Pediatric endocrinologists, Category:Pakistani endocrinologists and Category:Pakistani paediatricians.
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 03:31, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge both. These are such incredibly narrow sub-specialty cats - with parents for both specialties - that I have no objection to merging as proposed. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:46, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Fine dining restaurants in Illinois
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Left guide (talk) 07:54, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page in the category. Suggest upmerging for now. (Doesn't need a merge to the other parent, Category:Restaurants in Illinois, because the article is already in a subcategory, Category:Restaurants in Chicago.) – numbermaniac 02:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support merge. LibStar (talk) 04:16, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. The Ohio sibling may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 14:31, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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