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Category:Television news anchors from insular areas of the United States

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 26#Category:Television news anchors from insular areas of the United States

Category:Disasters in the Palestinian territories

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per actual content. As I understand it, the category tree for Palestinian territories (where categories are parented under "former country") includes everything related to Palestine from 1948 to 2012, before the PNA began referring to itself as the State of Palestine. However, the nominated categories also contain content from after 2012, so there is no reason to deviate from standard country classification practices. Hassan697 (talk) 20:55, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:July 2022 sports events in Moldova

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:29, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Region of setting

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename (and re-parent the top category), we use "___location" to summarize continents, countries, regions, waters, populated places, outer space. See Category:Categories by ___location. "Region" is used for regions in continents or regions in countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:September 2022 sports events in Fiji

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:42, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:November 2022 sports events in Ecuador

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated categories. Not useful for navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:44, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marshall Thundering Herd football venues

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT User:Namiba 15:31, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:39, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:James Cook

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 24#Category:James Cook


Category:Thomas & Friends videos

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:43, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While there is nothing wrong with covering Thomas & Friends home video, this category only has one article, which does not mention any home releases. RanDom 404 (talk) 14:14, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bangladesh College of Physicians and Surgeons alumni

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 26#Category:Bangladesh College of Physicians and Surgeons alumni

Category:People from Brookline, New Hampshire

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Television anchors from Charleston, South Carolina

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Charleston, South Carolina and Category:Television anchors from South Carolina. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Biddeford, Maine, by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries.

Also propose merging

Also subcategories with just two or three entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:46, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Yellowknife by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:36, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tang dynasty short stories

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. The proposed clarifications have been implemented. These categories contain written-by-people-from-X vs. written-about-X. Arguably, these are two different schemes which should be kept separate. A suggestion was made to have a larger discussion about how literature is categorized which might come to a different conclusion; revisiting this question after that might make sense. -- Beland (talk) 07:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 07:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, largely overlapping categories. I have tagged them both. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • That raises a broader question: should all literature articles be both in a period by writing category and a period of setting category, also if these periods are the same? It seems overcategorization to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Usually its setting is more precise, in a place or a county, so then it is different. I agree that "set in the United States" as such is redundant if it is written by an American writer. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have been pondering whether all fiction might usefully be divided between contemporary (the default), historical or futuristic. E.g. 1984 (novel) was futuristic even though its date of setting is now in our past. If this structure was adopted then the Tang dynasty literature articles (presumably with a contemporary setting) would not need to be also categorised as set in the Tang dynasty, and we would only need a separate category for historical fiction set in the Tang dynasty. – Fayenatic London 10:42, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I would not presume that they are all set in the Tang Empire, instead of fantastical locations (the Court of Heaven, the Underworld, Paradise Island Penglai, etc), or the Han Dynasty, or Huaxia (the pre-dynastic semi-mythological past); or set in neighbouring regions outside of the Tang, such as former Han territories not within the Tang. There are several pieces of lit known to be set in Penghu, which at that time was outside China (later dynasties would incorporate it) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Many Americans do not write stories set in the U.S. Which is why it should not be overcategorization. And as such, many writers of any place write (to them) historically placed literature. And of smaller countries, write about their bigger neighbors. Or write about the metaphysical. So I can't see why this would ever be overcategorization; especially when considering writers from time periods before the 19th century. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fiction set in ancient history

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:56, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated and poorly-populated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The precision is in the articles. Categories serve a different purpose, namely to navigate to similar articles. If "similar" means a millennium or ancient history, in the context of a specific sort of fiction, so be it. Note that the articles will still be in categories of fiction by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I am afraid I am not convinced. (If "similar" means a millennium or ancient history, and one cannot add a more precise category, then, so be it, sure, but if one CAN be more precise, then, imv, one should). But thanks. -Mushy Yank. 10:57, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Characters created by Tony Isabella

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 24#Category:Characters created by Tony Isabella

Category:Americanized surnames

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: listify into Anglicisation of names. jc37 makes a good point about it difficult to show relationships pairs in categories, compared to lists. Category:Anglicized surnames might benefit from listification, if anyone wants to nominate it. Even if that is kept, there is consensus that "Americanized" is redundant to "Anglicized", so this category will not be needed.-- Beland (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main article for this page is anglicisation of names. "American" isn't a language and many of these surnames are used in other countries than the US, including Canada, the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. ★Trekker (talk) 12:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Someone should check the articles too. Bell (surname) and Byers (surname) seem to be plain English-language surnames. And it is not clear if Blomquist really deviates from an original Swedish form. But better have it checked by a native English speaker. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listify - For the reasons illustrated above. This just looks like WP:OR (editors making a subjective determination for inclusion). This just cries out for explanations and references. Neither of which can be done with categories, per WP:BEFORECAT/WP:CLN. - jc37 17:53, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - As an aside, these fall under what I call "before and after" categories. (This was that, but now, it's this.) The clearest example of which is: renaming of people, companies, countries, etc. An article is one entry in a category. And can't show an individual relationship with another article (unless we started making innumerable 2-article categories). We should just establish that such categories are disallowed and are better as lists. Well... We do in WP:CLN#Disadvantages of a category, numbers 2 and 7 point to this, for example. But apparently we need to mke this clearer, I guess. - jc37 18:07, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Listify?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also noting that Category:Anglicized surnames exists and is not a redirect back to Category:Americanized surnames, so a traditional rename is not possible.
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Comment, I think it should be subsumed into Category:Anglicized surnames, because, as stated above, any “Americanization” would inherently be Anglicization. I’m not sure whether that’s considered a merge, or if another process is typically used. AnandaBliss (talk) 04:22, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Virtual reality pioneers

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The result of the discussion was: delete and listify. The objection which seems to stick is that it is too soon to know who is a VR pioneer for categorization to be crisp, unlike other fields with pioneers sorted into categories. Other "pioneer" categories may benefit from listification, merger, or other changes after further discussions. -- Beland (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: From Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_19#Virtual_reality_->_Extended_reality:

Please renominate "Virtual reality pioneers" separately. The term is generally only used in retrospect and I don't think it's controversial to say VR is still developing in a way that it's hard for us to say who is and isn't a pioneer from the present vantage point.
— User:Axem Titanium 23:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose (keep). All the nominated categories can be kept without any deletions or renamings instead. 67.209.130.111 (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Pichpich's comment?
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Category:National highways

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categorisation by WP:SHAREDNAME that means different things in each of the different countries with member subcategories. I added Category:Highways by country to those that weren't already included via a parent, so it's now redundant. Paul_012 (talk) 22:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's latest comment?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:People from Palestine

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The nominated category was clearly redundant to Category:Palestinian people, with a proper subset of the same subcategories. I added clarifying notes to scope a couple categories for readers. I leave any further changes to future discussions. -- Beland (talk) 06:19, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 06:19, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates the scope of Category:Palestinian people. For people from the entire geographical region of Palestine, Category:People from Palestine (region) exists. --Hassan697 (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• From reading the other comments, my conclusion is that for all ethnic Palestinians, we should use  Category:Palestinians. For nationals of the the modern State of Palestine we use Category:Palestinian people.
Category:Palestinian people should be merged into Category:People from Palestine. The categories should have clear descriptions of the purpose.
Category:People from Palestine should be a sub-category of Category:Palestinians Isoceles-sai (talk) 15:02, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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While I acknowledge that the category name could be debated and that an exception—similar to the one for Georgia—could be considered, I believe this should be addressed in a separate renaming discussion. My current proposal focuses solely on eliminating scope duplication. Later we can discuss whether an exception should be made for Palestine, similar to Georgia. However, this is a separate issue from the current redundancy. Additionally, the case of Georgia is different because Georgia is a disambiguation page, whereas Palestine is now the article about the modern state, with the disambiguation page moved to Palestine (disambiguation). --Hassan697 (talk) 20:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pittsburgh Labor History

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Labor relations in Pittsburgh. Multiple merge targets were suggested. Looking at Category:Labor relations in the United States by state, "Labor movement" categories are always children of "Labor relations" categories, and so are presumably narrower in scope. I picked the broader scope to avoid potential miscategorization, without prejudice to creating a subcategory later. The distinction is unclear and may be disputed by editors, so further discussion on general criteria for inclusion is probably warranted (if only to clarify for readers). But in the meantime, there seems to be agreement that the nominated category is redundant. The suggested purge seems to have happened already? -- Beland (talk) 01:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 01:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This should be made consistent with all other categories of history by specific topic in a specific region. See, for example, the subcategories of Category:Labor history by country or Category:Cold War history by country. Also MOS:TITLECASE. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Alt rename, as suggested by Namiba? Clear consensus for a rename.
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